# Movies that are "remakes" but with different titles **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [October 21, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894 "2023-10-21T17:41:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/81 "2023-10-22T13:54:01Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > _The 13th Warrior_ is an adaptation of Michael Crichton’s novel _Eaters of the Dead_ which itself is an adaptation of _Beowulf_. It’s a combination of _Beowulf_, and [Ahmad ibn Fadlan’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Fadlan) memoir. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/82 "2023-10-22T16:09:23Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@dirtball](#): > > > > Yojimbo \> A Fistful of Dollars \> Last Man Standing (with Bruce Willis) > > See, that’s not a remake. Yes, the _basic_ plot and theme is the same, but the characters, dialog, setting, etc etc are all different. > > Nor is The Magnificent Seven a remake of The Seven Samurai. > > You could call them a _homage_ to the original. > > > [@msmith537](#): > > > > _The Northman_ is a Viking version of Hamlet. Not so much a remake, but derived from the same source material. > > Right, The same source material is not a remake. > > > [@msmith537](#): > > > > And both remakes of Akira Kurosawa’s _The Hidden Fortress_ > > Nope. One can quibble about how closely one needs to adapt the source material to be considered a “remake”. _Guess Who_ (2005) is a lighter comedic remake of _Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner_ (1967). Or they can just be part of the “my future father in law hates me” genre. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/83 "2023-10-22T17:00:38Z")
_What Price Hollywood_ was remade as _A Star is Born_. ---
**Author:** ![f.coli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@f.coli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/f.coli)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/84 "2023-10-22T17:32:25Z")
Five Came Back (1939) was remade as Back From Eternity (1956) and then as Pitch Black (2000) although the last one was set on another planet. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/85 "2023-10-22T17:37:19Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > See, that’s not a remake. Yes, the _basic_ plot and theme is the same, but the characters, dialog, setting, etc etc are all different. > > Nor is The Magnificent Seven a remake of The Seven Samurai. > > You could call them a _homage_ to the original. Battle Beyond The Stars. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/86 "2023-10-22T18:24:39Z")
> [@slicedalone](#): > > The real problem, as I see it, is that one’s at least half a light comedy and the other’s a terrifying almost-horror thriller with no light moments whatsoever. There’s no disputing that. The first time I saw _ **Wait Until Dark** _, I was on the edge of my seat, so to speak. (I was actually sitting on the floor, and I jumped about a foot in the air at the big moment.) On the other hand, I saw _ **Charade** _ again a couple of weeks ago, and Hepburn gave a very convincing performance as someone scared to death at times. I wasn’t sure whom she could trust either until the very end. ---
**Author:** ![Feurmann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/779978/32.png) [@Feurmann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feurmann)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/87 "2023-10-22T22:19:46Z")
**Country Life** is a 1994 Australian feature film. It is an adaptation of **Uncle Vanya** by Anton Chekhov. Despite a strong cast of Australian and New Zealand actors (Sam Neill, Greta Schacci, Kerry Fox, Maurie Fields, and Tony Barry) I doubt it covered its production costs. But adapting Chekov for film seems IMHO to be like trying to capture lightning in a bottle. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/88 "2023-10-23T05:30:56Z")
Not sure if these have been mentioned already: 10 Things I Hate About You = The Taming of the Shrew. (There are doubtless many more examples where Mr S is concerned) Clueless = Emma ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/89 "2023-10-23T06:07:11Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > 10 Things I Hate About You = The Taming of the Shrew. Yeah, again not a remake. Yeah, the basic story line and plot is there, but not the rest. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/90 "2023-10-23T12:48:59Z")
The 1998 Roland Emmerich **Godzilla** actually has much les to do with the Toho films than it does with the Ray Harryhausen UR-Monster\* on the Loose film **The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms**. In both, a reptilian monster released/created by atomic bomb testing makes it way to New York, destroying things along the way, because New York is its spawning ground. (The Godzilla version showed us the actual spawning). Amazingly enough, considering that we’re dealing with a giant monster here, people lose it in the city. The creature is eventually killed in a NYC landmark. The original _Gojira_ was, director Honda admitted, inspired by TBf20kF (plus some more explicit references to the “Lucky Dragon”),but they couldn’t afford the extensive stop-motion animation and the time. - There had been Monster On The Loose In The City films before TBf20kF – King KOng, the 1925 LOst World, etc. But Harryhausen’s was the first to bring all the 1950s tropes together – Monster associate with atomic bombs, creature coming to the city itself (previous monsters on the loose were brought to the city by people), handsome hero and assistant scientist heroine, only one chance to defeat it, etc. It was also Harryhausen’s first use of his “Dyamation/Dynarama” process, which he was actually forced to do because he couldn’t afford the army of technicians used by King Kong to create all thise glass paintings and forced perspective sets. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/91 "2023-10-23T12:55:54Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > See, that’s not a remake. Yes, the _basic_ plot and theme is the same, but the characters, dialog, setting, etc etc are all different. > > Nor is The Magnificent Seven a remake of The Seven Samurai. > > You could call them a _homage_ to the original. I’d disagree. You don’t need to have identical dialogue and character names to have a remake. Myself, I draw the line when character’s motivations and purposes are not the same. So I don’t call **Forbidden Planet** a remake of **The Tempest**. Prospero lost his kingdom, after all, because he was distracted by his study of magic. Morbius , on the other hand, was pursuing his proper work as a philologist. Prospero encourages Miranda and Ferdinand. Morbius discourages romance between Altaira and J.J. Adams (or any of the crew). The drunken sailor cook in FP is just looking for a drink, and is otherwise dutiful. Stephano and TRinculo, although inept (and drunk), are actually trying to overthrow the leaders. And so on. There aree correspondence ibetwen characters, but the motivations and actions are all completely different. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/92 "2023-10-23T13:13:23Z")
The Lion King is based on the basic plot Hamlet, with some obvious differences because of the intended audiences. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/93 "2023-10-23T14:58:13Z")
And _Lion King 1 1/2_ is based on _Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead_. ---
**Author:** ![Limmin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f04885/32.png) [@Limmin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Limmin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/94 "2023-10-23T18:28:33Z")
Cool pix! They remind me of my recent Starfield playthrough, _a lot_! (Huge alien bugs, macro-sized space hardware, fancy suits, possibly “Victorian explorer” themed. and > [@msmith537](#): > > And both remakes of Akira Kurosawa’s _The Hidden Fortress_ Yes! At least an homage or inspired by. There are a lot of Kurosawa films appearing in this thread today… ---
**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/95 "2023-10-23T19:38:08Z")
There’s a straight-to-video vampire film called _Dance of the Damned_ which was produced by Roger Corman in 1989. A few years later he had another director shoot the same script and released it as _To Sleep With a Vampire_. Roger Corman is 97 now…when he passes away we’ll lose a certain kind of showmanship forever. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/96 "2023-10-23T20:43:31Z")
_A place in the Sun_ is a remake of _An American Tragedy_ ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/97 "2023-10-23T21:38:47Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > _What Price Hollywood_ was remade as _A Star is Born_. _What Price Hollywood_ from 1932 and _A Star is Born_ from 1937 were about actresses. The same basic plot was remade again in three more _A Star is Born_ movies in 1954, 1976 and 2018 but changed the main character to a singer. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/98 "2023-10-24T11:14:03Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > A German film from the 30’s, _Viktor und Victoria_ was remade in the US as _Victor/Victoria_. But it was first remade in English in 1935 as the film [First A Girl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_a_Girl). ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/99 "2023-10-24T11:19:36Z")
The Bruce Willis movie, “Last Man Standing”, is a definite remake of the Clint Eastwood movie, “For a Fistful of Dollars”. It is the exact same plot with only a couple of different wrinkles in it. Touch guy gun fighting wizard shows up in a town with two rival gangs. He plays them off against one another, kills them all, and leaves wealthier than he arrived. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894/100 "2023-10-24T11:41:51Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > The Lion King is based on the basic plot Hamlet, with some obvious differences because of the intended audiences. Everybody says this, but I’ve never seen anyone point out the obvious similarity of Simba-in-exile, Timon, and Pumbaa to Prince Hal, Ned Poins, and Falstaff from _Henry IV_ Both parts 1 and 2. The chief difference is that, although Timon and Pumbaa are “low”, they’re honorable, and fight in Simba’s defense at the end. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-are-remakes-but-with-different-titles/991894.md?page=6)