# Movies that could not be made in today's PC world.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 3, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073 "2011-02-03T22:06:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/61 "2011-02-04T17:01:27Z")

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> [@Vita\_Beata](#):
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> Reaching way back to 1967: Valley of the Dolls. Today there’d be interventions and rehabs.

Eh. _Requiem for a Dream_ certainly isn’t that old.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/62 "2011-02-04T17:46:32Z")

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Another one that pops up on cable now and then: **Little Darlings**. The plot: two 15-year-old girls at summer camp have a race to lose their virginity. Starts Tatum O’Neal and Kristy McNichol.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/63 "2011-02-04T18:00:06Z")

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> [@Max\_Torque](#):
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> Another one that pops up on cable now and then: **Little Darlings**. The plot: two 15-year-old girls at summer camp have a race to lose their virginity. Starts Tatum O’Neal and Kristy McNichol.

American Pie (1999), which was followed by five sequels.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/64 "2011-02-04T18:02:10Z")

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In the first movie, all the characters are seniors in high school, so presumably 18 or at least 17. After that they’re all of college age.

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**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/65 "2011-02-04T18:07:27Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> A non-villain white guy saying “did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said ‘Dead Nigger Storage?’” would probably raise some eyebrows.

I might have missed the Whoosh, but Pulp Fiction did just that…

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/66 "2011-02-04T18:19:10Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> And also went out of their way to make sure the REAL villains behind the scenes were white westerners.

That’s not true.

Look at season 4. That’s the one with the Iranian terrorist family which apparently is part of a Sunni terrorist group(which is quite odd).

In fact, in that one, Marwan, the main bad guy, uses “white westerners” as mid-level muscle.

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**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/67 "2011-02-04T18:28:51Z")

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_Kentucky Fried Movie_ certainly would not have had some of the same scenes (like “Catholic High School Girls in Trouble”). During the DVD commentary the producers noted that there’s no way they could get away with stuff like that today and still have an “R” rating.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/68 "2011-02-04T18:32:31Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> _Revenge of the Nerds_ was released in 1984, and sometimes I wonder how the rape scene made it through even back then.

Rape scene? I don’t remember any rape scene.

That said, them videotaping the sorority girls naked without them knowing about it would probably be very problematic in today’s society.

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> Sixteen? I could swear that it’s set in the summer before she starts college (I remember a line like, “Baby starts Mount Holyoke in the fall”), which means that she’s most likely eighteen

Looking back on it, I think you’re right and that I misremembered.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/69 "2011-02-04T18:35:41Z")

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> [@Krokodil](#):
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> When did this modern PC world begin? I’m getting on in years and still think of **Heathers** and **Pulp Fiction** as “recent.” I don’t remember the first **Bad News Bears** all that well, but the remake had Billy Bob Thornton driving drunk, which may actually have been a tougher sell back in '75.
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> Seriously, where does the timeline for the modern sensibility start? Columbine? 9/11?

The _Bad News Bears_ remake is far tamer than the original. The original has ten and twelve-years olds swearing, smoking, drinking alcohol and using racial slurs.

The closest the remake comes is the coach lets them drink non-alcoholic beer.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/70 "2011-02-04T18:44:09Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Rape scene? I don’t remember any rape scene.

I think the reference is to the scene in which the nerd wearing the Darth Vader costume has sex with the villain’s girlfriend. It has been argued that having sex while deceiving the other person about your identity means there is no valid consent and is therefore rape.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/71 "2011-02-04T18:57:42Z")

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It absolutely is rape. That scene has always enraged me. Ted McGinley turns down “Betty” for a quickie in the carnival funhouse, and “Lewis,” who is supposed to be the protagonist, is dressed in costume. “Betty” thinks he is her boyfriend who’s changed his mind, and he does nothing to disincline that idea. They go at it on the funhouse floor, to her great enjoyment.

He takes off the Darth Vader helmet and reveals his identity, and she is immediately enamored of “Lewis.” Instead of being horrified that she’s just been tricked into sex with a man she barely knows with no possibility of informed consent. That is rape.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/72 "2011-02-04T19:18:00Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Brooke Shields childhood movie career would never happen today. She seemed to specialize in the sexy Lolita roles. Pretty Baby, Blue Lagoon, Endless Love, Sahara none of those could be made today without drastically cutting back on the implied “young girl” sexuality.
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> I love Silver Streak with Gene Wilder, Richard Pryor, and Jill Clayburgh. They’d have trouble today with the black face scene. A shame because it’s is hilarious. Richard Pryor’s reaction to Gene as a hip black dude has me ROFL every time. IMHO if Richard Pryor was cool with the scene, then it’s not racist. But, people today are much more “PC”.

Good grief. 1975 was not a hop, skip and a jump from 1875. Minstrel shows were not all the rage when Silver Streak was filmed. There would be no trouble with it today, in the same kind of context, especially if someone the equivalent of Richard Pryor was involved.

As for Blue Lagoon, might I remind you that “Skins” is now running on television. Yes there are protests, but there were protests back then also.

You people make me feel old.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/73 "2011-02-04T19:22:27Z")

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The Gold Standard for me has to be Mickey Rooney’s Asian Stereotype character from **Breakfast At Tiffany’s**. [Here’s](http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=mickey+rooney+breakfast+at+tiffany's&cp=4&wrapid=tlif129684730734510&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=ylFMTbfYA5O4sQOc65SmCg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCMQsAQwAA&biw=1447&bih=810) a quick Google Image search for you.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/74 "2011-02-04T19:30:03Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Rape scene? I don’t remember any rape scene.

What **Sigmagirl** said.

It took me _years_ to recognize that as being a rape scene, btw. I used to only be annoyed by the idea that Betty would mistake a skinny nerd for her football-player boyfriend even for just one minute, mask or no mask. But I’m all about suspension of disbelief, and can ultimately chalk that up as being a form of the Clark Kent effect. Suddenly one day I watched that scene, though, and it occured to me that if someone did that to me I would feel like I’d been raped. Apparently, my ability to suspend disbelief ends with “well the sex was good, so not only was it ok that you raped me but now let’s be a couple!”

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**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/75 "2011-02-04T19:30:30Z")

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Pinky (1949) a black girl “passes” for white in the north, and has to decide whether to keep it up to marry her white beau.

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**Author:** ![kevlaw](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kevlaw/32/2281_2.png) [@kevlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevlaw)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/76 "2011-02-04T19:35:34Z")

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Has anyone seen the remakes of St Trinian’s? How do they compare with the originals. It’s hard to imagine that those films could get made today but - maybe I am wrong?

If a modern St Trinian’s had as much bad behaviour as the originals, I’d conclude that PC has had little effect on the mores of the film world.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/77 "2011-02-04T19:40:08Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> You people make me feel old.

They make _me_ feel _they_’re old!

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/78 "2011-02-04T19:54:37Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> That said, them videotaping the sorority girls naked without them knowing about it would probably be very problematic in today’s society.

Because it would be on the Internet. Just like \*\*American Pie \*\*ten years ago.

I think you people (and you know what I mean by “you people”) are mistaken about movies not being made because we are “too PC”. Did you actually watch **Borat**? What about the endless parade of Judd Apatow films? or Dave Chapelle’s comedy show?

If anything, many of the old “edgie” jokes would be considered lame and dated by modern standards.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/79 "2011-02-04T20:07:25Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> If anything, many of the old “edgie” jokes would be considered lame and dated by modern standards.

Thank god someone else is saying it.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-could-not-be-made-in-todays-pc-world/570073/80 "2011-02-04T20:27:28Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Thank god someone else is saying it.

Ayup. I tell you, back in my day we knew “edgie” humor. These kids today…

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