That’s not too implausible… I tend to expect the light switch to be in certain places… that’s because of standards in construction. I have a room in my house where the light switch is NOT in a standard location, yet I still expect it to be in the ‘usual’ place, and I’ve lived here for four years.
My favorite is common to Sci-Fi films, especially monster movies. Godzilla, Ultraman (etc), spend hours fighting the monsters using an array of weapons. Finally, at the end, they use their Super Ray and the battle is won. Now, why didn’t they use that Super Ray in the first place?
Or in Star Wars: (SPOILER WARNING!)
They destroy the Death Star by spending precious minutes going down trenches to reach the target. Why not just go directly for the blast hole, either from above, or with a shorter trench run?
*Originally posted by Jeremy’s Evil Twin *
Brian “I dare you to waste a f*cking draft pick” Bosworth
**Silence of the Lambs[/B} Hannibal Lechter manages to open his handcuffs with a paper clip-pen top gadget, then over power two police officers that have guns. Does eating people give you super-powers?
Real life scenerio: When he acts the first cop, the second cop shots him dead. End of film (and no sequel).
I didn’t mind that scene at all. He moved quickly enough to slip into my suspension of disbelief zone (though I don’t remember the details).
What bothered me was that in Hannibal
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He had to sever his hand (or part of it, movie wasn’t explicit) to escape from Clarice’s cuffs at the end, when he was in a fully loaded kitchen! I’m bothered that doped-up Clarice slipped them on him anyway, moreso that he had to take extreme measures to escape.
A very sour point on an otherwise throughly enjoyable movie.
Oh, and in AI, the mother wasn’t cloned. What the robots did was more like DNA facilitated time travel, as she retained her memories and personality. They weren’t interested in human biology, but the human soul. Yeah, it’s still BS technobabble, but slightly less clunky than before.
It also helps if you think of AI as being a Fairy Tale set in the future, rather than as sci-fi.
Oh, I can handle the action stuff because it would be boring if it was done realisticly. and the science fiction stuff is beyond normal expectations by definition.
But what I hate is when a movie needs something to help the plot or just add a laugh or just wants to piss me off. ie, THE MEXICAN. both Brad P and his boss rent pieces of junk in mexico without A/Cs because they want something authentic? He gets in a fight with Julia because she wants to go to Vegas and he has to go to mexico to keep from getting killed. Needed about 3 steven stegal movies to get over that movie.
Why did “as good as it gets” need Nickelson to be such a nut about the germs/cracks/… He seemed to the most messed up person I have ever seen. It made it unbelieveable to me. Although I know that people like that exist I dont think the need for an “elephant man” version was necessary for the plot. it seemed to just get in the way. why couldn’t he just be an asshole that was a clean freak?
While I appreciate the polite gesture, I have to ask; do you REALLY believe that anyone reading this MB would NOT have seen Star Wars?
For another genre which tends to fail the BS test miserably, how about teacher movies? Some are really good, but two real stinkers were “Dangerous Minds” and “187.”
Now, I know that there is a kernal of truth in each, but I am never, ever going to accept that Michelle Pfeiffer can be a real teacher, or simply walk into a classroom with her upper-crust, baguette ass and say to a bunch of kids from the 'hood that “there are no victims here.”
On the other hand, while Samuel L. Jackson would make a GREAT teacher of kids from anywhere, no way am I ever going to believe that any teacher is going to return to teaching after being stabbed 12 times with nine inch nail, or <spoiler alert>
is going to move across the country to terrorize completely different kids in another school by shooting them with heroin-filled arrows, cutting off their fingers, or shooting them dead and leaving their bodies in aqueducts. I swear, that damn movie was just about the most appalling thing I have seen in a long time.
Well, there’s always the outside chance that someone might not have, and maybe that person doesn’t want to see spoilers. I personally would like to thank everyone in this thread for being very awesome about putting spoiler warnings in their posts. I am the Anti-Spoiler Queen, and I really appreciate it. 
As for the OP: I have to mention Mission to Mars here. There were SO MANY plot holes in that movie, but I will just mention one. Namely, we are supposed to believe that Don Cheadle’s character survives for like a year on Mars with nothing more than a TARP? A TARP, for God’s sake? Chyeahright.
I am a moron. I go on my little soapbox about spoiler space, and then I forget to put it on my own post. Someone please shoot me now.
So, um, yeah, spoiler warnings for Mission to Mars for my previous post, there.
I am such a putz.
::Pats MsWhatsit on the back::
There, there. It’s ok.
Unless the plot calls for the live powerlines set fire to something, an over-laquered arbor for example. (c.f. Meet the Parents)
A discussion concerning this can be found here. Oh, and your mention reminded me of why I refused to see the new Godzilla movie: this huge lizard is stomping around in NYC. Why do I not hear any car alarms? Those annyong things can be set off by the vibrations of a passing bus, but not the small earthquakes caused by a giant lizard?!
Well, the premise was that he had plants under the tarp, converting the CO[sub]2[/sub] into O[sub]2[/sub]. The plants also gave him food, and there were some solar cells for power. It’s almost plausible, except for the whole temperature thing. (At least in theory, but he did have a lot more than a tarp, he had some cool near-future technology.) The part of the movie that annoys me the most is a)the writers thinking that chromosones are on DNA? and that b) Human DNA can de identified by glancing at it for les than a second.
Actually, I found that scene remarkably believable if you noticed one thing- there was a small set of steps from the rooftop to that ledge. That threw two major points at me- first, that it was a set-up (do any buildings have a small set of steps from the roof to the ledge? Living near DC, I haven’t been around many tall buildings, but it just seems implausible to me); second, that they were directing him on where to jump (path of least resistance- going to another side meant actually climbing the lip of the ledge, and once up the stairs, why bother walking around the ledge to another side? When one is that suicidal, one does what’s right there and easy). So believe it or not, I actually found that last scene plausible.
I hate this plot device too, but it reaches its low point not in a horror film but in THE USUAL SUSPECTS, a film that won an Oscar for Best Screenplay.
Steve Biodrowski
http://www.thescriptanalyst.com
Just reminded of something that had caused me brain damage “THE VANISHING”. now that is an unbelievable plot!
Its not a plot hole its just a hole of a plot. dare anyone to beat that one.
The one that immediately springs to mind, even though I have seen all manner of ungodly stupid movies, is Jurassic Park (and it’s spawn).
(Ignoring the scientific faults of the movies, of course.)
The first one had some semblence of versimilitude, they conveyed some circumstances which would make things difficult for the main characters. However, the second two has raptors laying traps and outsmarting people and all kinds of silly shit, PLUS new dinosaurs that came out of nowhere (SPINOSAURUS? Oh no!, PLUS characters that had no business being along in the first place. Yes, this mathematician will save the day, because he was the only one to survive the dinos the first time! Let’s not bring anyone knowledgable in dinosaurs when we have a mathematician forcing his way into the trip. Plus, an activist/photographer is much better than a second dino expert, especially since the first one didn’t seem to know dick all.
And don’t get me started on a sassy, young gymnast dropkicking a raptor to death.
Oh, you could fill an entire thread alone with the BS nonsense from the Sony GINO (Godzilla In Name Only) movie…
- Cars jump on the sidewalk when Godzilla first arrives in NYC, but not afterwards.
- Godzilla dents the asphalt when she first arrives in NYC, but not afterwards.
- Godzilla’s size changes from scene to scene and shot to shot.
- The heat-seeking missiles that can’t hit Godzilla because she’s cold-blooded. :rolleyes:
- Godzilla’s 900+ eggs that appear from thin air.
- And she somehow manages to lay several hundred in the upper box seats of Madison Square Garden.
- Human pregnancy tests that work with mutant lizard blood.
Okay, I’ll stop now…
Not only is it a wrong interpertation of the DJ rule but she goes to a completly different state to commit the actual murder. So the state of Washington found you guilty of killing your husband but now you’ve killed him in New Orleans? Guess what? We give you a trial.
More Deep Impact
Elija Woods character really bugged me. First he gets a ticket to the ARK which only a few people get and if you are not in the ARK you are toast. So he asks his little high school girlfriend to marry him and join him in the ARK. So basically he says ‘Marry me or DIE’ and she says I’ll have to think about, can my family come? ‘cause if they can’t I don’t want to go.’ So why dosent’ he say ‘Screw you I’ll go propose to Claudia Schiffer!’
Later when the traffic jam going away from hiedous death gets bogged down Elija goes through on a dirt bike. He stops in the middle when he finds his true love and hops off and runs back to her. At which point he should have heard his bike start up drive off with someone else on it!
King Kong
Why dosen’t Kong make some sort of impact crater after falling off the top of the Empire State Building? He dosent’ even crack the sidewalk!
Oh, you could fill an entire thread alone with the BS nonsense from the Sony GINO (Godzilla In Name Only) movie…
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Oooh Oooh! I got more:
- Godzilla doesn’t have an atomic heat ray
- Godzilla runs away from the military
- Four measley missles are enough to kill Godzilla
- Godzilla doesn’t have a sea-otter head, maple-leaf spikes, alligator skin, and upright stance
I’ve seen the real Godzilla, and GINO, you ain’t it.
About the Star Wars spoiler warning:
I know, I know. I just always wanted to put “SPOILER WARNING” by Star Wars. I just wanted to see the reactions 
You must have gotten different survival training than I did. I’ve always been told to head downstream. You’re much more likely, in most places, to come to a populated area (not many towns or cities on mountain tops). You may have to walk a little farther in some situations (Linville Gorge in NC and the Grand Canyon come to mind) but downstream is more often than not the way to go.
End slight nitpick.
My BS meter always goes off in war movies where the characters go traipsing across a ridgeline dramatically silhouetted against the sky or sunset. HELLO! The same thing that makes it a pretty shot for the film (you can see the soldiers) makes it a stupid thing to do from a tactical standpoint.
Another: The Patriot. Mel’s plantation is on the Santee Delta. Way out on the Atlantic Coastal Plain in South Carolina. The nearest rocks are 60 to 70 miles away, depending on which way you go. Yet, when the British capture his son, he just takes a 20 minute run to set up his ambush at that rocky outcropping over the road. Urgh!