# Movies that offend God **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 26, 2002, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954 "2002-05-26T20:39:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kantalooppi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a5b964/32.png) [@Kantalooppi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kantalooppi)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/41 "2002-05-29T13:30:00Z")
My favorite is from South Park review, “Angels are nude - very nude.” I wonder how very-nudity is different from regular kind of nudity. I find it life-affirming that when he reviews Battlefield Earth, even the [Capalert.com](http://Capalert.com) guy concentrates more on what a crappy, illogical movie it is than how much violence and smoking and most foul of the foul words there is. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/42 "2002-05-29T15:46:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fox\_Moxin \* > Once again,. i cant figure out the quote thing, but that is a quote. The scene in question is the bar scene at the begining. for a few sonconds an alien in red has her ass on display through fishnet stockings. Yeah, that’s from the scene where Anakin and Obi-Wan pursue a contract killer into a bar, and Anakin is walking around trying to spot her. One female alien has a thong on under fishnets. I was shocked at the review of _A Simple Plan_ ( [http://us.imdb.com/Title?0120324](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0120324) ). It’s about two brothers (played by Billy Bob Thornton and Bill Paxton) who find the wreckage of a plane that crashed a year or two before, and a duffel bag full of money in it. They decide to hide and keep the money, but things just get more and more complicated. I was astounded that his review reviled it as being a film that teaches you how to commit crimes and get away with them; it really does not promote that at all, and goes into great detail about what psychological and other harm this secret causes those involved. I was profoundly disturbed after watching the movie, and anyone who thinks it encourages criminal behavior is nuts. Plot spoiler for _A Simple Plan_, read if you’ve seen the film but perhaps don’t recall it fully: After going so far as to kill people to keep the secret of the money safe, they find out that this drug money has all been marked and the serial numbers are on file, so any attempt to use the money will land them in jail. Thus this basically good but financially desperate couple ruined their marriage and killed for nothing at all. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/43 "2002-05-29T19:29:25Z")
Denise makes a good point- “A Simple Plan” is NOT an immoral film, and it doesn’t condone theft or murder. Rather, it’s a dark-but-moral film that shows how easily decent people CAN slip into evil. No one ends up on the Riviera, living off ill-gotten loot! Just the opposite, the initial, seemingly victimless crime has dire consequences for everyone involved in it. I don’t know anything about Sam Raimi’s personal beliefs, so I certainly won’t claim him as a Christian, but the lesson of “A Simple Plan” is one that Christians should have no trouble endorsing: small sins lead to larger ones, which lead to destruction. Now, is it a film I’d take a little child to see? No. But that’s NOT the standard by which I judge whether a film is moral. There’s a HUGE difference between saying “this film is not for kids” and saying “this film is un-Christian.” Bear in mind, Jesus himself said that his followers must be “as gentle as doves, yet as sly as serpents.” That is, a Christian’s obligation is NOT to hide his eyes and ears from anything that might be disturbing, but to know and recognize evil. And given that, a film aimed at adults can include all kinds of subject matter- yes, including gore and/or graphic sex- and still be consistent with Christian morality. The real problem with Capalert and the people who run is is NOT that they’re bad people, or that their premise is necessarily wrong (parents NEED some kind of guide for determining whether a film is appropriate viewing for their kids). The problem is, they equate “Christian” and “moral” with an absence of bloodshed or nudity. And that’s a bad standard. Example? Well, there’s no bloodshed, nudity or graphic sex in “Pretty Woman.” There’s lots of all three in “Boogie Nights.” But if I had to judge which film had a more evil message, I’d say “Pretty Woman” does. I mean, what’s the message of “Pretty Woman”? That prostitution is a great career in whcih you get to stay at fancy hotels, shop on Rodeo Drive, and marry a billionaire! “Boogie Nights,” on the other hand, shows both why the sex industry is appealing AND why it’s so evil and destructive. Similarly, Martin Scorsese’s “Goodfellas” is far more brutal and violent than most PG rated gangster films… but by showing career criminals for the thugs they are, by deglamorizing the Mafia, I think Scorsese did a major service. In my book, that makes “Goodfellas” a highly moral film, even if there are no truly virtuous characters in it. Bottom line: if a teenager MUST see a film about the sex industry, better they see “Boogie Nights,” disturbing as it is, than “Pretty Woman.” And better they see REAL Mafia goons like Henry Hill in “Goodfellas” than the glamorous Mob in a host of other sanitized films. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/44 "2002-05-29T22:12:59Z")
Excellent comparisons, **astorian.** Hey, here’s a thought: Let’s try to make up a possible movie that the Capalert guy cannot find offensive in any way – and don’t forget to keep in mind the insanity of his standards. For example, consider a film that’s just ninety minutes of a kitten sleeping, playing, and roaming around. I suspect he would have to downgrade it for “bad attitude” every time the kitten turns around and shows us his little pink butthole. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/45 "2002-05-29T23:34:38Z")
Simple – do a remake of _Left Behind,_ except that the heathens figure out what has really happened halfway through the movie and spend the rest of the time on their knees, gnashing their teeth at their doomed fate and praying to the God whom they’ve been ignoring all their lives. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/46 "2002-05-30T01:29:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > \*\* > > For example, consider a film that’s just ninety minutes of a kitten sleeping, playing, and roaming around. \*\* If there was such a movie, I’d watch it. 😉 I wonder if these people even bother to READ these Bibles they’re thumping. I mean, you get lots and lots of sex, violence. Blood, gore, fornicating, all the gory details. Incest, rape, adultery, etc. D’uh. ---
**Author:** ![Jello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@Jello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jello)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/47 "2002-05-30T01:47:54Z")
> [@](#): > > Maybe the disturbing scene was intended to be disturbing, to get across the point that a particular character, or, hell, society (or at least the version of it that said character is a product of) is evil! _Changing Lanes_ is another example of this. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/48 "2002-05-30T02:08:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > **fornicating** Heh heh, Guin said “fornicating”, heh heh… ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Creant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Miss\_Creant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Creant)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/49 "2002-05-30T02:32:42Z")
Do he review books? Jeebus, I would **love** to see what he’d have to say about [this](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0380978407/reader/2/ref=lib_rd_TFFL/102-8397139-3999337#reader-link) ---
**Author:** ![Katisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/50 "2002-05-30T04:26:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*I wonder if these people even bother to READ these Bibles they’re thumping. I mean, you get lots and lots of sex, violence. Blood, gore, fornicating, all the gory details. Incest, rape, adultery, etc. > \*\* IIRC, _Prince of Egypt_ gets points off for violence and stuff, and they went out of their way to be scripturally accurate… Looking at **Silentgoldfish** ’s post again – > [@](#): > > multiple battles with sorcery using sorcery, some very, very graphic What on earth does this _mean_ (besides being redundant)? I ought not to post in these threads. It feels like shooting fish in a barrel. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/51 "2002-05-30T17:33:28Z")
Careful, or you’ll get points off for violence toward fish, a well-known Christian symbol. ---
**Author:** ![mrblue92](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@mrblue92](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrblue92)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/52 "2002-05-30T21:54:40Z")
From the [review of Pitch Black](http://www.capalert.com/capreports/pitchblack.htm): > [@](#): > > Let Hollywood make whatever they want but if they do they had best be prepared for right wing radical fanatics like me to tell the Truth about their movies. Well, at least he _knows_ he’s a radical fanatic… It’s funny how he claims he’s being objective. _Pitch Black_ had “excessive breast exposure” and “dress to maximize the female form or skin exposure”? Didn’t the mere hint that Whitney Houston even had breasts in [The Preacher’s Wife](http://www.capalert.com/capreports/preachwife/preachwife.htm) didn’t catch his eye. Or Helen Hunt’s tight top in [Twister](http://www.capalert.com/capreports/twister/twister.htm)? And it seems like he was too busy counting obscenities in [American History X](http://www.capalert.com/capreports/amerhistx98.htm) to even think about the friggin’ plot. I can just see the silly bugger [squirming](http://www.capalert.com/capreports/jayandsilentbob.htm) through [Kevin](http://www.capalert.com/capreports/dogma.htm) [Smith](http://www.capalert.com/capreports/dogmafull.htm) films. (Where’s the _Chasing Amy_ review??? Heh.) I also like the ones from [Fight Club](http://www.capalert.com/capreports/fightclub.htm): > [@](#): > > punk music in startup background > encouraging sadness > punk dress > man on commode ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/55 "2012-12-28T15:36:47Z")
Do zombie movies offend God? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/56 "2012-12-28T15:41:03Z")
> [@Rob\_Johnson](#): > > Dear Friends, > > I’ve created a Facebook page that lists movies that offend God (and I’ll be updating it). > > It’s called ‘Say No to movies that offend God’ > > Please join and support this important initiative. > > Best Regards, > Rob If God is so offended, why doesn’t _he_ create a Facebook page about it? Or, y’know, smite something? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/58 "2012-12-28T15:51:36Z")
> [@Rob\_Johnson](#): > > The thing is those listed movies directly offend God (there is simply no respect to God) which we shouldn’t tolerate Did He tell you He’s offended or is it just you? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/59 "2012-12-28T16:08:47Z")
> [@Rob\_Johnson](#): > > The thing is those listed movies directly offend God (there is simply no respect to God) which we shouldn’t tolerate An unexamined Faith is not worth having, and there would be no virtue in avoiding temptations if those temptations were not available. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954/60 "2012-12-28T16:44:48Z")
> [@Rob\_Johnson](#): > > Dear Friends, > > I’ve created a Facebook page that lists movies that offend God (and I’ll be updating it). > > It’s called ‘Say No to movies that offend God’ > > Please join and support this important initiative. > > Best Regards, > Rob We are not here to help you support your agenda, which you’d know if you read the [registration agreement](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=650726). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-offend-god/110954.md?page=2)