# Movies that you enjoyed, right up until the very end

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [May 3, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293 "2021-05-03T14:28:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293/161 "2021-06-16T22:57:52Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> My read of that, was that he’d already had some or all of those adventures and had come back for a cool farewell.

But it was established at the end of BTTF II that the time circuits were damaged in the DeLorean and he had no way to travel through time until 1955 Doc was able to fix it.

So even if we assume that he made one trip to the distant future to retrofit his train with all of the bells and whistles of a great, slick looking time machine, he still couldn’t make the first trip.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293/162 "2021-06-16T23:12:56Z")

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Doc built the first flux capacitor in his garage, so it presumably doesn’t require any particularly exotic parts, other than the uranium fuel. Obviously, the selection of off-the-shelf electronics available in 19th century California was lacking - except that when Marty went back to the movie title, he left his futuristic hoverboard behind. It’s movie-plausible that Doc could have used the components from the hoverboard to re-invent the flux capacitor and install it on another train, and then get all the hover stuff added in when he visits some future era.

That said, the flying, time-travelling train was very cartoony in a way that the rest of the series was not, and felt out-of-place.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293/163 "2021-06-16T23:22:52Z")

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Also the fact that Doc repeatedly told Marty to destroy the time machine when he got back to the future, because he was afraid of messing up the timeline again. So then why would he build another one? (Unless his nagging wife and kids forced him into it. 😜)

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293/164 "2021-06-17T00:24:38Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Doc built the first flux capacitor in his garage, so it presumably doesn’t require any particularly exotic parts, other than the uranium fuel.

Plutonium!

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293/165 "2021-06-17T00:26:58Z")

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**Boss Level**

Loved the movie, has a HORRIBLE ending.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293/166 "2021-06-17T06:16:20Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Aliens or robots or the sun going all red giant, on the time scale the movie implies humanity is done for no matter what. But I do see what you mean. Kinda.

The problem with _AI_, IMHO, is that it was originally supposed to be a Stanley Kubrick film, and while the two filmmakers, Kubrick and Spielberg, shared a love of science fiction, they had very different sensibilities: Kubrick was obsessed with dehumanization, whereas Spielberg is one of Hollywood’s great humanists. Their points of view were essentially irreconcilable, and led to a movie that simply didn’t work on the conceptual level.

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**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293/167 "2021-06-17T09:34:54Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Loved the movie, has a HORRIBLE ending.

Yes. I assumed this was a cliffhanger for a sequel. Not even a little bit of a clue as to what happened.

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293/168 "2021-06-17T18:45:46Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Also the fact that Doc repeatedly told Marty to destroy the time machine when he got back to the future, because he was afraid of messing up the timeline again. So then why would he build another one? (Unless his nagging wife and kids forced him into it. 😜)

My guess is either he, his wife, or his one of his kids got sick and the only way they could be cured was to go to the future–prompting him to break his vow never to build another time machine.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293/169 "2021-06-19T22:53:40Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Also the fact that Doc repeatedly told Marty to destroy the time machine when he got back to the future, because he was afraid of messing up the timeline again. So then why would he build another one? (Unless his nagging wife and kids forced him into it. 😜)

Because he often does things contrary to his own advice. Take the watching the videotape of his own death, for example.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-you-enjoyed-right-up-until-the-very-end/941293/170 "2021-06-23T09:20:49Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Robot archeologists makes more sense than aliens but it would still be a tacked-on, feel-good ending. I always felt the studio just could not have such a cute kid end the movie at the bottom of the ocean and something had to be done. Or Spielberg has happy ending disease.

I have to admit that I never assumed for a moment that they were aliens. From what I recall of the dialogue (and the way the data was transferred) they appeared to be highly-(self-)evolved robots in the distant future. The ending contextualizes the rest of the film, humanity’s love/hate relationship with AI making more sense in the context of an actual threat of “replacement” as people essentially make themselves extinct as a species. The new robots are working to remember and learn about their original creators, which makes the records of the direct experience the preserved kid robot had with humans so valuable to them. In a way, he “saves” humanity, if only in memory.

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