# Movies - Warriors questions Warriors, come out to playeeeaaayyy! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 6, 2013, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135 "2013-09-06T01:14:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/61 "2013-09-07T03:18:12Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > But the only time we see Rembrant do his thing, he paints a red “W” on a tombstone. Nothing fancy… Just a good, standard, Sesame Street “W”. But he used the spray paint again when he nailed the “Punk” on the roller skates in the subway men’s room. Well, sure, Cleon’s plans kind of went out the window when he got beaten to death, and they were kind of unexpectedly pressed for time when every gang in the city was trying to murder them. Cut me some slack, I’m fanwanking here. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/62 "2013-09-07T03:29:48Z")
Just watched it (has been at least 20 years since I last saw it, loved it and played a PBM called It’s A Crime because of the movie) Last scene where the Riffs show up had me a little confused. Lots of black guys with ice hockey sticks in 1979. I dunno… ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/63 "2013-09-07T03:47:46Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Didn’t know about the video game until you mentioned it. YouTube has some hilarious clips. The game is so freaking fun. James Remar is obviously having a blast with the voice acting, he plays Ajax as the same right bastard he was in the movie, but with a gruff humor that was missing in the original, and the actor who played Cleon gets much more screen time showing his backstory in the game than he ever did in his 15-20 minutes of the movie and does a surprisingly fantastic job. Joe Lo Truglio from _The State_ and _Reno 911!_ is hilarious as Vermin. The gameplay is ridiculously entertaining, too. It’s probably the game I miss most since my PS2 gave up the ghost. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/64 "2013-09-07T04:28:46Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > James Remar and Mercedes Ruehl both had very successful careers, others were moderately successful (Beck said “Xanadu” killed his movie career), some never acted again (Snow became a NY State Trooper), some died young (Rembrandt died of cancer in 1986 at age 28). Apropos of not much, this thread got me idly poking around Warriors-related stuff and it finally clicked that [Fox](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111106201432/thewarriors/images/a/ad/Fox.gif) was [Windows](http://www.roughridecreations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/windows-the-thing.jpg) from John Carpenter’s **The Thing** , another cult favorite of mine. Apparently he has had one of those [modestly successful careers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_G._Waites) that a lot of actors would kill for, yet leaves little visible trail. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/65 "2013-09-07T04:54:38Z")
As to the actual outfits of gangs from that era it looks like a mix of 70’s fashion with a lot of folk imitating biker gangs. I don’t see anything as out there as the Baseball Furies or the High Hats. Someone told me that there was trouble with the Furies as they were initially wearing the Yankees logo and the Yankees were upset by that. ---
**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/66 "2013-09-07T05:01:41Z")
> [@delphica](#): > > For pretty much my entire life, I have been trying to convince people that the best Halloween costume ever would be to get a group to go as the Baseball Furies. Come on! I freaking love this movie (didn’t hurt that it came out when I was 14) although I’ve talked two girlfriends into watching it with me and both laughed throughout at its stupidity. It was removed from the local theaters in our area because of fights/knifings that occurred after the show let out a few times. Dunno if the events were related but the implication is that they were. The fight scenes (in the movie, to clarify) were _wahsome_. And my best friend and I still quote it just about every time we talk on the phone. And if I had a nickel for every Halloween I dressed as a Baseball Fury… I’d have a quarter by now. One year, three other guys and I on my street dressed as Furies. (We would have gotten our asses kicked, too.) ETA: And the score kicked ass, too. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/67 "2013-09-07T21:59:16Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Another piece of movie trivia that stuck in my head is that the actors were forbidden from leaving the set in Coney in their colors, because Coney’s real gang “The Homicides” would have messed them up. I also remember hearing that they had problems with their fake tags getting tagged over. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/68 "2013-09-08T04:21:53Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Apropos of not much, this thread got me idly poking around Warriors-related stuff and it finally clicked that [Fox](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111106201432/thewarriors/images/a/ad/Fox.gif) was [Windows](http://www.roughridecreations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/windows-the-thing.jpg) from John Carpenter’s **The Thing** , another cult favorite of mine. Apparently he has had one of those [modestly successful careers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_G._Waites) that a lot of actors would kill for, yet leaves little visible trail. Tom Waits was in “…And Justice For All” with Al Pacino. He was the guy that was thrown into jail by accident and ended up getting killed by a cop after Pacino failed to get I’m out of jail and he was raped in prison. Man, that was a bad run-on sentence. Anyway, that is the only thing I can remember him in besides the Warriors. > [@Lochdale](#): > > Just watched it (has been at least 20 years since I last saw it, loved it and played a PBM called It’s A Crime because of the movie) > Last scene where the Riffs show up had me a little confused. Lots of black guys with ice hockey sticks in 1979. I dunno… I hope you were nudged to watch it because of this thread. I always loved that end scene. It is so ridiculous on so many levels. Swan wins the gun fight he brought a knife to. The Riffs show up right after Swan cleans the knife off in the Rogue leader’s greasy hair, and come down to the beach with Hockey sticks and chains (no guns). “The rest is ours.” They kill all of the Rogues with those hockey sticks, but it was still a strange choice of weaponry. I like how the Riffs could get down to CI with all of their gang, hockey sticks and chains, and not one cop is in sight. I guess they had their own transportation to get down there from the Bronx. “Can you dig it?” -Cyrus ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/69 "2013-09-08T05:00:26Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Tom Waits was in “…And Justice For All” with Al Pacino. He was the guy that was thrown into jail by accident and ended up getting killed by a cop after Pacino failed to get I’m out of jail and he was raped in prison. Man, that was a bad run-on sentence. Anyway, that is the only thing I can remember him in besides the Warriors. Tom Waites. Tom Waits is a completely different guy. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/70 "2013-09-08T14:16:25Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > I like how the Riffs could get down to CI with all of their gang, hockey sticks and chains, and not one cop is in sight. I guess they had their own transportation to get down there from the Bronx. > > “Can you dig it?” -Cyrus Well, the Rogues had a car, the Turnbull A.C.s had a bus. Surely the Riffs, being the biggest and best organized gang in the city, had a superior transportation system. ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/71 "2013-09-08T16:55:57Z")
All this gang talk reminds me of [Venus Flytrap](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhbqIJZ8wCM) describing the 3 gangs: The New Boys, the Elected Ones & The Pros. can’t find a clip with Dr Johnny Fever popping up at the end and asks Venus to explain (something). ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/72 "2013-09-08T18:46:39Z")
> [@Doug\_K](#): > > Well, the Rogues had a car, the Turnbull A.C.s had a bus. Surely the Riffs, being the biggest and best organized gang in the city, had a superior transportation system. Yeah. I assumed they co-opted a subway train. RIFFS! YEAH RIGHT! ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/73 "2013-09-08T19:05:46Z")
This thread has caused me to dig around the Internet, and a couple of things have come to my attention. 1). I thought I was one of the only people that inexplicably liked this movie, flaws and all. I was not aware of its “cult” status, which apparently it has in spades. 2). I had no idea there was a video game out there, made for the PS2, which is still pretty popular 3). In about 2005, a supreme directors cut was released on DVD, which explains a ton about this movie, including the Greek story background, the comic book take by the director, producer, and so on. Also, about 9 minutes of deleted scenes are shown, and are now posted on YouTube, which answer many questions. 1. There is even a guy from England who has done a five part analysis on this movie that is on YouTube. I don’t know how good it is, I just noticed it when I did a search on the warriors out there, and I watched the first segment. So, the movie apparently has touched a number of people in a multitude of ways. 2. the most disturbing piece of news… They are remaking the Warriors, and it will be out next summer?! Why remake a cult masterpiece (of course, the answer is money). ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/74 "2013-09-08T19:09:29Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Yeah. I assumed they co-opted a subway train. > > RIFFS! YEAH RIGHT! I assumed they built their own subway system. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/75 "2013-09-08T20:53:27Z")
I guess I didn’t pay attention to this movie very well because I assumed that it was set in post-apocalyptic NYC. Being ostensibly set in actual 1970s NYC makes it even worse which of course makes it even better. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/76 "2013-09-08T21:04:42Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I guess I didn’t pay attention to this movie very well because I assumed that it was set in post-apocalyptic NYC. Being ostensibly set in actual 1970s NYC makes it even worse which of course makes it even better. Well, it’s a very stylized/comic book version of “actual 1970s NYC.” ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/77 "2013-09-08T21:28:06Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > … > 3). In about 2005, a supreme directors cut was released on DVD, which explains a ton about this movie, including the Greek story background, the comic book take by the director, producer, and so on. Also, about 9 minutes of deleted scenes are shown, and are now posted on YouTube, which answer many questions. > > … I own that and it is every bit as good as it sounds. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/78 "2013-09-08T23:22:16Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I guess I didn’t pay attention to this movie very well because I assumed that it was set in post-apocalyptic NYC. Being ostensibly set in actual 1970s NYC makes it even worse which of course makes it even better. I’ve always viewed The Warriors as taking place in a New York City that’s a few steps down the road towards dystopic – not enough cops, gangs exerting more muscle (like starting a fire to shut down the subway), “civilians” staying out of the streets out of fear, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/79 "2013-09-09T00:40:24Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Let me introduce you to [Pop Will Eat Itself](http://youtu.be/36nWNAvtwrw). > [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > Wow. I probably haven’t heard that in 20 years. Seriously. Now I have to play all the PWIE vids. Big Mac, fries to go… ---
**Author:** ![tsar4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@tsar4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tsar4)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135/80 "2013-09-09T01:07:33Z")
If you didn’t like the roller skating, overalled dude in The Warriors, perhaps you’d prefer him as the 2nd in command, creepy “Ducky Boy” in The Wanderers, also from 1979. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-warriors-questions-warriors-come-out-to-playeeeaaayyy/668135.md?page=5)