# Movies where Evil Wins

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 29, 2000, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824 "2000-10-29T17:39:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/41 "2000-10-30T20:10:26Z")

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In **Gallipoli** , the evil of the British army using the Australians as a decoy wins out in a tragic ending.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/42 "2000-10-30T20:13:03Z")

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The Astronaut’s Wife.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/43 "2000-10-30T20:14:32Z")

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Oh, and **The Bad Seed**.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/44 "2000-10-30T20:20:57Z")

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OK, I’m back we can REALLY time travel now.

• “A Fool There Was” (1915). Theda Bara’s first starring film, one of many where she played Evil Triumphant.

• “Red-Headed Woman” (1932), a Jean Harlow movie where she sleeps her way to the top and ends up rich and happy in Paris. The censors had a FIT.

• “Baby Face” (1933), in which Barbara Stanwyck is even more evil than Jean and also ends happily.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/45 "2000-10-30T20:23:12Z")

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“In the Company of Men” - 1997 (Great low budget gem)

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**Author:** ![shimmery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@shimmery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shimmery)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/46 "2000-10-30T21:29:30Z")

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The Talented Mr. Ripley

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**Author:** ![Wandering\_Pilgrim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@Wandering\_Pilgrim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wandering_Pilgrim)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/47 "2000-10-30T21:44:34Z")

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How are Alfred Hitchcock’s “The Birds” …no winners there.

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**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/48 "2000-10-30T21:59:43Z")

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What, nobody posted Pulp Fiction yet?  
Then again, was any main character innocent in that movie?

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**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/49 "2000-10-30T22:15:01Z")

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Collosus: The Forbin Project

A luddites worst nightmare.

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**Author:** ![Phobos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Phobos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phobos)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/50 "2000-10-30T22:27:18Z")

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Monty Python and the Holy Grail 🙂

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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/51 "2000-10-30T23:06:07Z")

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The Vanishing (the Dutch/French version; I think the horrible American remake ends on a happy note)

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/52 "2000-10-30T23:49:01Z")

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[ul][li]Fail Safe[/li][li]Dr. Strangelove[/li][li]Breaker Morant[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/53 "2000-10-30T23:50:32Z")

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The Molly McGuires

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/54 "2000-10-31T00:31:42Z")

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Event Horizon - evil wins - literlly (even id the movie sucked)  
Starship Troopers - the evil Nazis win  
Apocalyse Now - I guess madness wins

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/55 "2000-10-31T00:50:00Z")

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Dammit, Poysyn beat me to it!  
I was going to say Swimming With Sharks

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**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2000, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/56 "2000-10-31T01:35:55Z")

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> _Originally posted by **Ura-Maru** _  
> Evil Dead. (Yeah, Ash comes back, but as of the first one, he died at the end)

It depends on how you look at it. In ED2, we learn that the lightning-speed evil force shot is merely the evil entering Ash. (\<hijack my own post\>What is it about Ash that the evil bounces in and out of him willy nilly? It’s pretty much a death sentence for everyone else.\</hijack my own post\>)

Even looking at ED1 as a stand-alone film, the evilness doesn’t _nessecarily_ kill people (it leaves one of the girls in the cabin for a little while while she pleads with Ash to help her). You could argue that this is a ploy by the evil force, ala Linda’s disembodied “normal” head in ED2, but it didn’t feel that way to me.

Just to bring the whole series into play, you might say that evil wins in the “Planet of the Apes” ending of Army of Darkness. I guess ignorance really wins in that one, seeing as how Ash is too damn stupid to count the drops of potion…

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2000, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/57 "2000-11-04T03:54:37Z")

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_The Brood_ and _The Omen_.

Two films mentioned that do not necessarily end as badly as you think: _12 Monkeys_ and _Apocalypse Now_.

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**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2000, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/58 "2000-11-04T04:45:21Z")

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Cervaise: I always thought Billy Jack copped out at the end. Given the times and the general conservatism of the Arizona police, he should have been riddled by bullets at the end.

I also think Strange Days should have had a downbeat ending, but once again Hollywood cops out.

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**Author:** ![Diesel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Diesel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diesel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2000, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/59 "2000-11-04T06:52:27Z")

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American Beauty. Although it’s arguable that Colonel Fitts was really evil. He was really just frighteningly homophobic.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Sang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee7513/32.png) [@Le\_Sang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Sang)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2000, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/60 "2000-11-04T08:28:45Z")

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Glory - unless you’re a confederate supporter

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