# Movies where Evil Wins

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 29, 2000, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824 "2000-10-29T17:39:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2000, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/61 "2000-11-04T16:43:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by astorian \*  
> \*\*Well, let’s see…
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> 1. In “Night of the Living Dead,” courage and resourcefulness end up counting for nothing, as the hero survives the night but still gets killed by rednecks.  
> \*\*

Which hero is that? The woman survives the movie but she kills that idiotic/asshole father/husband. Do you mean the black fellow? He was a zombie at the end though.  
My contribution would be “Titanic”. The Iceberg always wins at the end 😉

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**Author:** ![Zumba\_The\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/779978/32.png) [@Zumba\_The\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zumba_The_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2000, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/62 "2000-11-04T17:08:23Z")

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A Simple Plan

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**Author:** ![scratch1300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@scratch1300](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scratch1300)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2000, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/63 "2000-11-04T17:19:48Z")

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At the end of _Rosemary’s Baby_ the Antichrist is born. Can’t get much more triumphantly evil than _that_…

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2000, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/64 "2000-11-04T19:53:06Z")

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bernse writes:

\> Which hero is that? The woman survives the movie but she  
\> kills that idiotic/asshole father/husband. Do you mean  
\> the black fellow? He was a zombie at the end though.

You’re talking about the second version of the film. astorian was talking about the first version. In it, the black man is the only one in the house to survive, and he’s not a zombie in the morning. The people outside think he’s a zombie though, and they kill him.

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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2000, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/65 "2000-11-04T20:12:46Z")

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I never saw that one! I will have to rent it.

Eric

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2000, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/66 "2000-11-04T20:35:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ura-Maru \*  
> **_Evil Dead._ (Yeah, Ash comes back, but as of the first one, he died at the end)**

Actually, the end of the first one never said he died. It was left open to interpretation. All you knew for sure was the demons were still there and came after Ash. What happened after was then explained in _Evil Dead 2_.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2000, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/67 "2000-11-05T06:00:03Z")

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Damn, I CAN’T think of the title, what was the movie with “Louis Cypher”?

Future Movie where Evil Wins: _Hannibal_

_Basic Instinct_

There was this absolutely bizarre movie on TV one day, and I only caught the last half-hour of it. A little girl in what looks like the Depression-era South is on the run from monsters, ghouls and witches. In the end, she is inducted into the ranks of the undead.

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**Author:** ![AzRaek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/azraek/32/16739_2.png) [@AzRaek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AzRaek)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2000, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/68 "2000-11-05T06:53:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lumpy \*  
> \*\*Damn, I CAN’T think of the title, what was the movie with “Louis Cypher”? \*\*

Angel Heart, with Mickey Roarke, and Lisa Bonet. DeNiro play Cypher.

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**Author:** ![SuperNova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SuperNova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNova)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2000, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/69 "2000-11-05T16:36:47Z")

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The Thing.  
Came out in the early 80’s. I remember seeing it as a little kid. Scared the hell out of me. If I remember right it ended with a few guys around a fire in the middle of the arctic about to kill themselves. That may ot be accurate. I should rent it someday.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2000, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/70 "2000-11-05T16:41:20Z")

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_Being John Malkovitch_.

By the end of the film, the only sympathetic character left was Malkovitch himself, and look what happened to him.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2000, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/71 "2000-11-05T17:31:33Z")

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Braveheart. Kinda.

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2000, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/72 "2000-11-05T17:39:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by SuperNova \*  
> \*\*The Thing.  
> Came out in the early 80’s. I remember seeing it as a little kid. Scared the hell out of me. If I remember right it ended with a few guys around a fire in the middle of the arctic about to kill themselves. That may ot be accurate. I should rent it someday. \*\*

Actually a remake of a film that came out in the 50s (I think the 50s). The Thing killed everyone except Kurt Russell and that black guy. They had no shelter, no transportation, and were stranded in the Antarctic (maybe the arctic?) They figured since they were the only 2 left, if one of them was The Thing, they would have killed the other by now, so they sat in the snow together drinking, waiting to freeze to death.

I love that movie to, I own a copy of it on VHS (can’t wait to get my DVD player)

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**Author:** ![RocknRoll\_Killing\_Machine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5daacb/32.png) [@RocknRoll\_Killing\_Machine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RocknRoll_Killing_Machine)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2000, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/73 "2000-11-06T03:28:32Z")

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Two movies that come two mind are

Trainspotting and Roger and Me.

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**Author:** ![nineiron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e56c9b/32.png) [@nineiron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nineiron)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2000, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/74 "2000-11-06T03:54:35Z")

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Rocky (unless you’re going with the “triumph of the spirit” stuff–let’s go with the result of the contest).

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**Author:** ![Silvio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Silvio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silvio)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2000, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/75 "2000-11-06T09:45:07Z")

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How about:

JFK

Henry:Potrait of a Serial Killer

Mean Streets

Body Heat

Prince of Darkness

Rosemary’s Baby

Natural Born Killers

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**Author:** ![drewcosten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@drewcosten](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewcosten)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2000, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/76 "2000-11-06T16:43:23Z")

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I didn’t notice this one mentioned yet: Arlington Road.

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**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2000, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/77 "2000-11-06T17:33:40Z")

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**Rudy**

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2000, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/78 "2000-11-06T17:40:12Z")

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_ **Easy Rider.** _

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2000, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/79 "2000-11-06T18:16:02Z")

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**Cool Hand Luke**

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2000, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-evil-wins/38824/80 "2000-11-06T18:54:44Z")

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**The Talented Mr. Ripley**

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