# Movies where the good guy doesn't make it \*WARNING: UNBOXED SPOILERS!\*

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 8, 2007, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152 "2007-04-08T02:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2007, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/41 "2007-04-08T23:11:00Z")

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In _Executive Decision_ Steven Seagal doesn’t make it to the halfway mark - and everyone wins.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2007, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/42 "2007-04-08T23:35:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]  
In _Fallen_, Denzel Washington’s character dies.  
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That reminds me—in _Man on Fire_……Denzel Washington’s character, Creasy, dies before the bad guy who kidnapped Dakota Fanning.

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**Author:** ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/43 "2007-04-09T01:13:01Z")

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Not sure if this counts, but…

_Transformers: The Movie_ (1986) - Optimus Prime dies before Megatron [technically dies]  
LilShieste

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/44 "2007-04-09T02:21:13Z")

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In the final _Blackadder_ series, all of our heroes die in battle before the Nazis/Axis troops get theirs.

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**Author:** ![DataZak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@DataZak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataZak)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/45 "2007-04-09T02:28:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
In the final _Blackadder_ series, all of our heroes die in battle before the Nazis/Axis troops get theirs.  
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Nitpick: it was the 1914-1918 war so those Germans weren’t Nazis…yet.

My contribution:

_12 Monkeys_.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/46 "2007-04-09T02:31:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
In the final _Blackadder_ series, all of our heroes die in battle before the Nazis/Axis troops get theirs.  
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the Bad Guys weren’t the Germans, but the buffoons at General Headquarters. Haig’s name features prominantly.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/47 "2007-04-09T02:34:26Z")

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[QUOTE=DataZak]  
Nitpick: it was the 1914-1918 war so those Germans weren’t Nazis…yet.

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I’m an idiot. Thank you. :smack:

[QUOTE=silenus]

the Bad Guys weren’t the Germans, but the buffoons at General Headquarters. Haig’s name features prominantly.  
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Good point–Haig _does_ outlive the First World War, so I suppose it still counts…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/48 "2007-04-09T02:42:36Z")

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_Brazil_

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/49 "2007-04-09T03:10:03Z")

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Zentropa  
Dancer in the Dark (an experiment in depressing film)  
Cabinet of Dr Caligari, for same reasons as Angelheart, Sixth Sense, et al

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/50 "2007-04-09T03:26:20Z")

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Nineteen Eighty Four

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**Author:** ![Reepicheep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@Reepicheep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reepicheep)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/51 "2007-04-09T03:29:17Z")

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Bruce Willis dies in _The Sixth Sense_, technically before Vincent does.

Does that count?

I swear I didn’t see **capybara’s** post when I posted this. I might be going blind or crazy.

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**Author:** ![Waenara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@Waenara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waenara)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/52 "2007-04-09T08:57:06Z")

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I just saw [Crank](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479884/) recently, and if Jason Statham’s character isn’t the “good guy” he’s at least the protagonist.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/53 "2007-04-09T13:19:25Z")

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Nick the deaf mute in Stephen King’s The Stand.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/54 "2007-04-09T13:31:55Z")

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_The Great Escape_. Not everyone dies but quite a few do.

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**Author:** ![Sunrazor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/55 "2007-04-09T13:47:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Peter Morris]  
Nineteen Eighty Four  
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I’m not familiar with the movie, but in the book, Winston doesn’t die at the end, despite O’Brien’s promise that he will.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/56 "2007-04-09T13:49:16Z")

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John Coffey in Stephen King’s The Green Mile

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/57 "2007-04-09T14:16:59Z")

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_300_  
possibly _The Terminator_ if you consider Reese the “good guy.”

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/58 "2007-04-09T14:51:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Cuckoorex]  
_300_  
possibly _The Terminator_ if you consider Reese the “good guy.”  
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Well, Reese and most of the LAPD.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/59 "2007-04-09T15:15:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Raguleader]  
Well, Reese and most of the LAPD.  
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They were just scenery.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-the-good-guy-doesnt-make-it-warning-unboxed-spoilers/399152/60 "2007-04-09T15:39:43Z")

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I can’t read this thread, just seeing the title of the movie spoils it.

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