# Movies where there are no good guys

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [April 3, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349 "2021-04-03T21:41:59Z")\
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I’m watching “I Care A Lot” on Netflix and it’s about people that take advantage of the elderly versus the Russian mafia.

What other movies have no good guys?

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/2 "2021-04-03T21:47:50Z")

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The ironically named _Goodfellas_.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/3 "2021-04-03T22:04:35Z")

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Vacillating over were there any good guys in “Glengarry Glen Ross”. Not sure if I could call any of them _exemplary_, exactly. _Maybe_ the office manager, or the somewhat puffball Alan Arkin role?

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/4 "2021-04-03T22:24:27Z")

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_Kill Bill_  
_Pulp Fiction_  
_The Hateful Eight_  
_Sin City_  
_The Godfather_ Trilogy

At least as far as major characters go.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/5 "2021-04-03T22:28:22Z")

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Few more off top of head…

Man Bites Dog  
Wild Bunch (nah, not even Holden)  
American Psycho  
Eating Raoul  
Los Olvidados  
Auto Focus

ETA:  
And all the wonderfully (in their own right) obnoxious folks in Mike Leigh’s “Abigail’s Party”

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/6 "2021-04-03T22:29:49Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Pulp Fiction

Christopher Walken carried a watch up his ass for two years just so he could return it to little Bruce! What does it take to impress you?

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/7 "2021-04-03T22:31:10Z")

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That’s why I added the qualifier “major characters.”

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/8 "2021-04-03T22:32:10Z")

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After I posted. Or I’m just really unobservant today.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/9 "2021-04-03T22:32:17Z")

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_Very Bad Things_

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/10 "2021-04-03T22:33:07Z")

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_Downfall_

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/11 "2021-04-03T22:46:58Z")

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_Bad Santa_

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/12 "2021-04-03T22:49:41Z")

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_Antichrist_

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/13 "2021-04-03T22:52:48Z")

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_The Women_ (2008)

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/14 "2021-04-03T22:53:44Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> _Pulp Fiction_

It’s basically a superhero origin story for the guy who’s going to Walk The Earth — you know, like Caine in _Kung Fu_ — walk from place to place, get in adventures.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/15 "2021-04-03T23:08:11Z")

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Most movies that are based on the premise of a group of strangers being holed up together somewhere unknown and left to their own devices to figure out a) why and b) how to get out

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/16 "2021-04-03T23:12:48Z")

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_The Wolf of Wall Street_  
_The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly_

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I recall that the review on WXRT for _To Live and Die in LA_ was “a movie so cool that everyone’s a jerk and eventually gets shot in the face”

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/18 "2021-04-03T23:23:21Z")

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Well, he was a captain.

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_Memento_  
_I, Tonya_

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-there-are-no-good-guys/939349/20 "2021-04-03T23:56:52Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Very Bad Things

That is one I’m thinking about. Also, I’m trying to remember if anyone in _A Simple Plan_ would count as good. Or in any movie that involves the protagonists planning and getting away with (for certain values of “getting away with”) crimes. (_Oceans 1_-_Oceans 97_, for example. Or _The Sting_.)

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