# Movies where you agree with the minority of critics (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 9, 2016, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576 "2016-01-09T09:28:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/41 "2016-01-12T16:09:32Z")
Unless it’s the word “other”, I’m not sure. ---
**Author:** ![fjs1fs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fjs1fs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fjs1fs)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/42 "2016-01-12T16:57:25Z")
> [@Iggins](#): > > Just saw _Gone Girl_. Didn’t believe the wife character and her motivations at all, and I didn’t buy into the animus that Affleck’s character experienced. Strange, uneven movie, and I usually love Fincher and his style. One of the worst movies I’ve seen. Holy Crap, I can’t believe this movie scored 88/87 on Rotten Tomatoes. I totally second your opinion on this! ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/43 "2016-01-12T17:05:44Z")
I have found **The Shawshank Redemption** (91% on RT) to be overly dull. I never got what everyone else liked so much about it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/44 "2016-01-12T17:19:00Z")
> [@fjs1fs](#): > > Holy Crap, I can’t believe this movie scored 88/87 on Rotten Tomatoes. I totally second your opinion on this! That’s a pretty astonishing score. Who was the bonus reviewer? Edit: oh, those are two percentages, not a fraction. Never mind! ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/45 "2016-01-12T17:27:35Z")
I have mentioned, before, [my contempt for the frozen turd called Snowpiercer](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18809937&postcount=74). I was absolutely gobsmacked to see it has a 95% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Inversely, although it doesn’t fit the parameters of the OP, I can’t really understand why Cars 2 gets ragged on so much. I thought it was an enjoyable and well-made animation. Solid 3 out of 5 I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/46 "2016-01-12T17:37:24Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Possibly an age thing. I saw this in high school, and Bill & Ted’s excellent adventure as an adult, and thought the first was great and the second was awful. If I’d seen them in the other order, I probably would’ve loved Bill & Ted and hated Heathers. I think you’re right about this. Your age at the time of viewing definitely can play a part in whether you like it or hate it. I saw both Heathers and The Breakfast Club in my teens, and loved them. Not sure what I’d think of them now. (Can’t remember how old I was when I first watched Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure, but I think I’d still love that movie if I went and watched it again at age 90.) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/47 "2016-01-12T17:42:28Z")
> [@Totenfeier](#): > > _Avatar_ was plagiarized hook, line and sinker from Poul Anderson’s novella _Call Me Joe_ (though I bet you - yes, you - already knew that. Not entirely. Jake Sully’s story may have been taken from _Call Me Joe_ but Anderson didn’t write anything that was the equivalent of the Na’vi. Cameron stole that from _Dances with Wolves_. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/48 "2016-01-12T18:11:10Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > I didn’t much care for Mad Max Fury Road. I’d give it a C, so an average movie. It was nothing but an extended chase scene, then they turned the hell around just to do it again. I liked the other Mad Max movies, but this one was just boring by the end. I came on this thread to post exactly this. It got redundant, no character development and frankly I had no sympathy for anyone in it. Also, the stupidest villans this side of a Storm trooper. ---
**Author:** ![Iggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Iggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggins)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/49 "2016-01-12T18:28:38Z")
[quote=“Not\_Carlson, post:45, topic:742576”] I have mentioned, before, [my contempt for the frozen turd called Snowpiercer](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18809937&postcount=74). I was absolutely gobsmacked to see it has a 95% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes. /QUOTE] So freaking true. Terrible movie, and I heard so many good things about it. ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/50 "2016-01-12T19:22:07Z")
I liked Alien 3 a lot - it’s my favorite of the series. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/51 "2016-01-12T19:38:07Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Unless it’s the word “other”, I’m not sure. Yep, that was it. Totally managed to miss that on several readings. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/52 "2016-01-12T19:42:47Z")
I had to read the quotes a couple of times to see it myself, which is how I figured out what you meant :). ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/53 "2016-01-12T19:43:50Z")
> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#): > > I liked Alien 3 a lot - it’s my favorite of the series. I like Alien 3 very much too. It seemed half the viewers were mad because it wasn’t a haunted house story like Alien and the other half was mad because it wasn’t a sci-fi action movie like Aliens. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/54 "2016-01-12T19:51:50Z")
> [@Totenfeier](#): > > _Avatar_ was plagiarized hook, line and sinker from Poul Anderson’s novella _Call Me Joe_ (though I bet you - yes, you - already knew that. I think it was stolen by Harry Harrison’s _Death World_ trilogy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/55 "2016-01-12T19:58:10Z")
It’s truly amazing just how many different stories _Avatar_ was 100% plagiarized from. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/56 "2016-01-12T20:29:12Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It’s truly amazing just how many different stories _Avatar_ was 100% plagiarized from. Heh. I thought it was basically _Dances with Wolves_ with blue cat aliens. And yes, I think it sucked. Speaking of which, I didn’t care for _Dances with Wolves_ either. Sorry, Mr. Director, but I reject your attempt to make me feel guilty about something I had nothing to do with because it happened a hundred years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/57 "2016-01-12T20:30:57Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It’s truly amazing just how many different stories _Avatar_ was 100% plagiarized from. If there is a movie about stealing plots from other movies, it stole that plot too. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/58 "2016-01-12T23:10:23Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Isn’t Rotten Tomatoes just an aggregator? Saying, “The critics at RT,” is the same as just saying, “the critics.” They have both a tomatometer of critics and an audience aggregator. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/59 "2016-01-12T23:26:21Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > > [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#): > > > > I liked Alien 3 a lot - it’s my favorite of the series. > > I like Alien 3 very much too. It seemed half the viewers were mad because it wasn’t a haunted house story like Alien and the other half was mad because it wasn’t a sci-fi action movie like Aliens. I think it falls short of the first two movies, but I agree, Alian 3 is a good movie that got some undeserved hate. Like Scumpup suggests, I can only assume it’s “rotten” rating is due to backlash from fans not getting what they wanted. Perhaps a case of a sequel suffering from having the bar set too high. But I thought it was a very good movie, both as a sci-fi action horror and as an addition to the series. ---
**Author:** ![Nikki\_Tikki\_Tavi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3da27b/32.png) [@Nikki\_Tikki\_Tavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nikki_Tikki_Tavi)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576/60 "2016-01-13T01:13:48Z")
> [@bobkitty](#): > > Thirteen Ghosts, on the other hand, gets a 14/49 score on RT and a 5.5 on IMDb, but I’ll watch it any time it comes on TV. Thirteen Ghosts is great, I agree. I hated [Ex Machina](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0470752/). HATED it. Was baffled when it was on a lot of year end best lists because I truly thought it was garbage. I also didn’t like [It Follows](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3235888/) or [Goodnight Mommy](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3086442/), and think that they both tricked people into thinking they were watching high brow horror instead of boring movies with glaring plot holes. [Chappie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1823672/), however, was just what I wanted it to be. A silly sci fi shoot 'em up that didn’t aspire to be anything more. I see that it fares better on IMDB than on RT, which makes me feel a little better. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-agree-with-the-minority-of-critics-open-spoilers/742576.md?page=4)