# Movies where you want the bad guys to win

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-want-the-bad-guys-to-win/236909>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 28, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-want-the-bad-guys-to-win/236909 "2004-03-28T12:58:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-want-the-bad-guys-to-win/236909/41 "2004-03-29T03:29:42Z")

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_Colossus: The Forbin Project_

_Swordfish_

_Zeppelin_ (Obscure Michael York movie from the 70s. Anyone else seen thisin’?)

Most _Frankenstein_ movies, especially Hammer ones. Actually, most horror or scifi movies where the villain is a mad scientist. (“Tampered in god’s domain” my ass…)

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**Author:** ![JoeSki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@JoeSki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeSki)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-want-the-bad-guys-to-win/236909/42 "2004-03-29T09:01:49Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> [FINAL HIJACK :)]
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> I won’t be able to play tonight, but I’ll log in briefly to add you onto the list.

Alright, you’re on my buddy list now. you know my playing schedule (11:00pm-???) but it sounds like you don’t play at the same times as I do, so you can email me at [joethegoplayguy@yahoo.com](mailto:joethegoplayguy@yahoo.com) whenever you want to meet up. I won’t be doing anything this week other than catching up on homework, watching movies, and sleeping in, so I should be able to meet up with you an pretty much any time of the day.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-want-the-bad-guys-to-win/236909/43 "2004-03-29T12:18:32Z")

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> [@JoeSki](#):
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> I’d love to see Steve Buscemi play a hitman 🙂 .  
> Tell me, does he succeed?

Partly. He establishes his coolness as soon as he arrives in town by wiping out a whole gang of neo-nazis just because he sees them beating up some innocent guy. He then takes out at least two of the main characters before one of them manages to get the drop on him.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-want-the-bad-guys-to-win/236909/44 "2004-03-29T14:46:43Z")

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Not a movie, but I’d be glad if the FBI finally came in and killed every mob member in **The Sopranos**.

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**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-want-the-bad-guys-to-win/236909/45 "2004-03-29T16:31:01Z")

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Again not a movie, but a TV show with a story arc.

**Fushigi Yuugi** , an anime series that also goes under the name **Mysterious Play**.

In one corner, a whiny, snivelling brat whose every need has been cared for in real life, and – now pulled into a fantasy world – has an emperor and a troupe of bodyguards catering to her every whim. And she’s the hero.

The villains are lead by her former best friend, who’s been raped and otherwise humiliated, and who has fallen in love with the heroine’s boyfriend. Most of her coterie is queer, which is apparently supposed to make us hate them all the more. And they’ve all lead hard lives: three of them are survivors of genocide, and one of them is a freed slave.

I’ve seen this series three times, and I’m always so disappointed when the heroes win ☹

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**Author:** ![TitoBenito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@TitoBenito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TitoBenito)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-want-the-bad-guys-to-win/236909/46 "2004-03-29T19:17:43Z")

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I wanted Tom Cruise and his samurai buddies to lose in the Last Samurai. I just don’t really sympathize with unrealistic luddite aristocrats that just want to continue kicking peasants around like they have been for centuries. Dieing to maintain a dieing system that put you on top isn’t honor its stupidity and greed.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-where-you-want-the-bad-guys-to-win/236909/47 "2004-03-29T19:28:03Z")

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You can turn off the DVD of _Thelma and Louise_ as they go off the edge and pretend it’s _Chittty Chitty Bang Bang_.

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