# Movies Which Depict Sexual Abuse of Children (Not about child porn)

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**Created:** [July 15, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297 "2004-07-15T18:32:02Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/21 "2004-07-15T21:58:06Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> I never saw it, but I have a vague memory of seeing a clip, and it was the younger sister that was raped. Actually, I think both of them were, by the same guy. Of course, this was from a clip from a movie I never saw, nearly 30 years ago. So naturally you may take my word as gospel. 🆒

I saw it, but Oh my Goodness, that was so long ago!! This movie is 15-20 some odd years old, I hope I don’t need spoilers for it??

But just in case someone gets cranky, I’ll see if I can remember spoilers correctly. If not, forgive me.

[spoiler]IIRC, they were both raped. The older sister (they were both sisters in real life too, the Hemingways, Margeaux and Murial), was raped by the guy first, she was the character for whom the title was named Lipstick, she was a model. If i remember, it was as her little sister began her entry into the world of modeling that she was also raped by the same perpetrator.

The older sister only THEN becomes enraged enough to go after him.[/spoiler]

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> [@tdn](#):
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> You know, George Washington used to grow acres of weed.

> [@Casey1505](#):
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> He knew it would be a good cash crop for the southern states, man.

Whenever he came home, Martha would be waiting for him with a big, fat bowl. martha was a hip, hip, hip, _hip_ lady, man.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/23 "2004-07-15T22:38:16Z")

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8mm - the whole movie is about a teen girl who dies in a rape/snuff film (I don’t reccomend watching it’  
Eye for an eye - Sally Field’s daughter is violently raped and killed at the beginning (extremely disturbing scene)

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/24 "2004-07-15T22:52:30Z")

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Tim Roth’s ‘The War Zone’ is a great but depressing movie. It features a father who has sex, repeatedly, with his mid-teenaged daughter.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/25 "2004-07-15T23:43:41Z")

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> [@START](#):
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> Boys of St. Vincent

Good God. Yeah, that one nearly killed me, watching it. Can you tell I was a Canadian and Catholic at the time?

In “The Cell”, which I could not watch all of… was there sexual abuse of the child, or was it only physical and verbal? I had to turn it off when the father (?) hit him with the iron.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/26 "2004-07-16T00:15:06Z")

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[Here](http://us.imdb.com/List?tv=on&&keywords=child-molestation)’s the IMDB listing for child molestation and also for [child molestor](http://us.imdb.com/List?tv=on&&keywords=child-molester).

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/27 "2004-07-16T00:18:55Z")

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A few more (there’s some overlap but not completely): [child prostitution](http://us.imdb.com/List?tv=on&&keywords=child-prostitution) and [child rape](http://us.imdb.com/List?tv=on&&keywords=child-rape)

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/28 "2004-07-16T00:42:41Z")

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[**Osama**](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0368913/). It’s subtle, but very disturbing.

Irene Cara was asked to strip in **Fame** , though I’m not sure of what year it was. Still, there’s a good chance the character was under 18 (even if the actress wasn’t).

Since any portrayal of sex between someone under 18 and an adult can be construed as sexual abuse, there are the following:

There was a scene in **Almost Famous** when the 15 year old Cameron Crowe character is taken to bed by a couple of groupies. Though he doesn’t seem to have any problems with the experience.

**[Le Souffle au coeur](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0067778/)** features a 15-year-old boy having sex with his mother. It’s a charming flick.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/29 "2004-07-16T01:12:38Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> What’s with three Kevin Bacon movies all featuring children being sexually abused?

Another one for the Bacon list: _The Woodsman._ It’s an excellent, excellent movie, and contains at least one deeply squirm-inducing scene. I’m going to fairly extensively spoil the plot in the box below. Reveal at your own risk. If you choose not to view the spoilers, know that the movie is very, very much worth seeing, though the content is fairly grim. Bacon himself gives a pretty amazing performance.

[spoiler]The plot of _The Woodsman_ centers on Bacon’s character being released into the community after serving a prison term for child molestation. He struggles with his urges, including following a 12-ish girl around a mall, while holding down a dead-end job and attempting to build a normal relationship with a woman he meets there. He also sits in his apartment window and watches the school playground across the street, which is how he notices another guy scoping out the kids. Before long, he figures out this other guy is another molester looking for targets. Towards the end of the movie, this other guy succeeds in luring a young boy into his car, and while we don’t see the actual scene of abuse, there’s no doubt about what happens.

The squirm-inducing scene: Bacon is riding the bus home from work. A girl gets on, maybe 11 or 12. (One thing the movie gets very right is that the deviant sexual urges are extremely consistent.) He watches her. He skips his own stop, and follows her. He meets her in the park, where she’s watching birds. He initiates a friendly conversation. (Another thing the movie gets right: The only time Bacon is truly comfortable and happy is when he’s “befriending” a child. Insightful, but creepy and disturbing.)

And toward the end of the scene, which has them on a park bench, along among the trees, talking about birds, Bacon casually turns to the girl and says, “Would you like to sit on my lap?”

I won’t describe the last ten minutes of the movie, but I will say it’s quite a bit more positive and hopeful than the above might suggest.[/spoiler]

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/30 "2004-07-16T01:23:17Z")

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Well, there’s **Little Boy Blue** …  
Big spoilers in box. So read the IMDB description first [here](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119547/combined) and see if you have interest in the movie before reading the spoilers, ok?

Jimmy’s father was…damaged while at war and can no longer preform, so to get his kicks he has his son screw his wife- at gunpoint. This is shown once, although Jimmy is in his late teens at the time. However, his father informs him that his little brothers, boys about 7 and 4, are really _Jimmy’s_ sons. Jimmy is 18 or 19, so you do the math

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/31 "2004-07-16T01:38:34Z")

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_Sybil_, starring Sally Field. In one brief but horrifying flashback to her childhood abuse

we see her as a young girl on a table in her mother’s basement, her legs tied spread eagle to an overhead light fixture.

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Although it was never on screen, there was implied underage rape in Forrest Gump.

Yep, Jenny’s father abused her and her sisters.

Made for TV movies-“I Know My First Name is Steven”, which is really disturbing, when you consider it was a true story.

“A Time To Kill”, based on the book by John Grisham opens with the violent rape of a 10 year old black girl in the rural south by two redneck losers.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/33 "2004-07-16T02:15:34Z")

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**Lumpy** , how can that be? It would be pulled out of the ceiling. I read that book a long time ago, but I didn’t really believe it. In the book she was completely upside-down, but also spread eagle tied to one light fixture. That just doesn’t make sense.

I’m not remembering it happening in the basement, either. I think in the book it was in the kitchen.

Sorry, I’ve just got a great big “Huh?” going on from remembering that book.

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Well, she was a small child, and perhaps it was one of those big metal chandelier type hanging lamps?

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I think it’s a lot better when they imply things. I don’t know why they seem to want to put so much horribly graphic (i.e. rape) scenes in movies these days. It’s not only unneccesary, but you _know_ there’s sickos and pedophiles out there getting turned on and maybe even getting ideas. I find it seriously disturbing. :eek:

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Re Sybil:

It was one of those hanging lights on a cord with a flat metal shade. Something (a mop or broom pole?) was tied across the fixture and the girl’s legs tied to the ends of the pole. I couldn’t find a link to a photo; it might count as kiddie porn.

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In _Sybil_, wasn’t her mother raping her with an old-fashioned shoe buttonhook? Either that, or douching her with ice water?

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> [@HeyHomie](#):
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> The Tin Drum (a nine-ish year-old boy is fellated)

Just a minor nitpick, but it’s the other way round. The boy performs oral sex on an older girl and while you can call the scene disturbing, you can hardly count it as abuse.

A film that depicts several instances of abuse is [A ma Soeur!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243255/), containing the on-screen rape of a thirteen-year-old girl and a fifteen-year-old being coerced into a variety of acts.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/39 "2004-07-16T22:49:25Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Since any portrayal of sex between someone under 18 and an adult can be construed as sexual abuse, there are the following:

Why did I know it was only a matter of time before somebody said something like this? :rolleyes:

Would you classify _The Blue Lagoon_ as child abuse? Did the two teens sexually molest each other??

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-which-depict-sexual-abuse-of-children-not-about-child-porn/255297/40 "2004-07-17T00:07:36Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> Why did I know it was only a matter of time before somebody said something like this? :rolleyes:
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> Would you classify _The Blue Lagoon_ as child abuse? Did the two teens sexually molest each other??

Neither of them was an adult, they were both children. I see no comparison between what Reality Chuck said, and what you have just said.

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