# Movies whose reputation \*wrongly\* decayed over time **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 1, 2015, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120 "2015-10-01T08:40:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/41 "2015-10-01T17:41:25Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > …at least until you consider that the word “ewok” is not used in the movie… but for some reason, we all knew what they were called… Aggressive pre-release marketing is one of the things Lucasfilm has always been great at. Boba Fett is never addressed by name until Attack of the Clones. Palpatine was not named onscreen until Phantom Menace came out. The Force Awakens is still two months away, but we already know the names of several major characters because of how their merch is being marketed. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/42 "2015-10-01T17:41:43Z")
By the time anyone knew what an Ewok was, there was umpity-trillion other Star Wars toys for sale, including action figures of every minor character to grace the background of an alien crowd scene. It’s not as though Ewoks were the selling out point. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/43 "2015-10-01T17:41:54Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > I’ve never understood the Ewok hate. Yeah, they look cute and cuddly, but they are some viscous things. Especially after being stepped on by an AT-ST. 🙂 One of the few good things about the re-re-released editions was changing the Ewok scoring to something less… Teletubby. ---
**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/44 "2015-10-01T17:49:07Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > (Maybe if TNG gets remastered at some point and they fix the embarrassingly bad green screens and matte backdrops, my opinion will change.) They did. They didn’t completely redo the SFX in CGI like they did for TOS, but they did go back to all the original elements and remastered everything to HD (it was filmed on real film, but it had been edited in SD, so they had to recreate the entire series from scratch using the original film and re-editing in HD.) It’s on Blu-ray and Netflix in HD. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/45 "2015-10-01T17:54:03Z")
> [@caligulathegod](#): > > They did. They didn’t completely redo the SFX in CGI like they did for TOS, but they did go back to all the original elements and remastered everything to HD (it was filmed on real film, but it had been edited in SD, so they had to recreate the entire series from scratch using the original film and re-editing in HD.) It’s on Blu-ray and Netflix in HD. Makes you wonder if they’ll go back and do it all over again in twenty years… to update the special effects. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/46 "2015-10-01T17:57:57Z")
After intervening years of exposure to Lost In Space, Star Wars, Star Trek, 2001: A Space Odyssey, etc. I’ve been watching “Fireball XL5”. The plots seem a lot less riveting to me than they did in 1963. The model work is still good, I have to say. At least, the launching of the ship. Those little scooters are still as laughable as they were in 63. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/47 "2015-10-01T18:12:06Z")
Rocky. I think the increasingly cartoonish sequels and Stallone’s follow on work of mostly action movies has eroded the legacy of a legitimately excellent movie. Unlike, say, Jaws, which has even lower quality sequels, but has remained above the fray. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/48 "2015-10-01T18:29:29Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > If it makes you feel any better, I’ve _always_ hated Titanic. Me too. My companion burst out laughing during a tense, serious, very quiet scene, when I suddenly dove for my purse, pulled out my lighter, and flicked it to see what time it was. I must not have owned a cell phone at the time. I turned to her and said, “Is this fucking thing sinking yet?” It takes about 2:40 to get that damn boat sinking, which was about two hours too long IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/49 "2015-10-01T18:30:23Z")
For a while I would have put in Big Trouble in Little China, but it seems to have come back to the top again. Hmm… **Tango and Cash** perhaps? You really can’t get more quintessential 80s schlock than that. It’s quite fun. > [@Oedipus](#): > > I really REALLY REALLY don’t understand why it’s suddenly cool to hate Forrest Gump, Titanic, and Juno. It’s not sudden in my case. I hated on Forrest Gump when it came out and Titanic when it came out because they’re both crap. The former sets out to try and explain to me what “real life” is like which, well thank you, I live in the real world and a) that’s not what real life is like, and b) I do not appreciate being patronized. Titanic is just a crappy movie surrounded by fancy special effects. I would have preferred that they just made a re-enactment if they couldn’t be bothered to come up with an actual story for the movie and were only interested in creating a re-enactment (see also: Saving Private Ryan). I haven’t seen Juno. I’ve only ever heard it was good. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/50 "2015-10-01T18:35:21Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Boba Fett is never addressed by name until Attack of the Clones. Not technically true. Han says the immortal “Boba Fett? Boba Fett, where” before accidentally knocking him into the Sarlaac Pit. Also… ROTJ is the most watchable of the OT. It’s fun and has a better sense of adventure than the other two. ESB may be a better film overall, but ROTJ just has way more going on. ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/51 "2015-10-01T18:35:53Z")
How exactly did Forrest Gump try to explain what “real life” was like? ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/52 "2015-10-01T18:36:30Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > The future never holds up all that well, over time. Ain’t that the truth! ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/53 "2015-10-01T18:38:34Z")
> [@Dante\_G](#): > > How exactly did Forrest Gump try to explain what “real life” was like? If you’re just dogged and earnest and down-ta-earth everything wonderful will come to you. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/54 "2015-10-01T18:43:00Z")
> [@Dogzilla](#): > > It takes about 2:40 to get that damn boat sinking, which was about two hours too long IMO. Technically true. Movie shoulda been named “Beautiful Fictional Love Story Set Aboard A Doomed Ship Which Will Likely Sink At Some Late Point.” And Boba Fett first appeared, and was named, in the _Star Wars Holiday Special,_ which remains canon despite George Lucas’ best efforts. ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/55 "2015-10-01T18:43:45Z")
Well, I can see that as being the story element, but I didn’t see it as way to show us all how to live. I mean, I didn’t walk out of the theater thinking if I was more like Forrest, than things would go more my way. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/56 "2015-10-01T18:44:55Z")
And now that I think about it, I can say that the \*Star Wars Holiday Special’s \*reputation has decayed over time, as well… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/57 "2015-10-01T18:44:57Z")
> [@Dante\_G](#): > > How exactly did Forrest Gump try to explain what “real life” was like? That’s like watching someone get beaten up and then, when the victim asks if you’ll go to the police and report the crime, you’re like, “When exactly was there a crime?” Everything about it, in every scene was made to try and show what life is like - in the view of the author and/or director. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/58 "2015-10-01T18:51:51Z")
Boba Fett was named in the holiday special too and that came out before ESB eta: beaten to it ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/59 "2015-10-01T18:54:47Z")
> [@Dante\_G](#): > > Well, I can see that as being the story element, but I didn’t see it as way to show us all how to live. I mean, I didn’t walk out of the theater thinking if I was more like Forrest, than things would go more my way. I didn’t say that the movie showed you how to live, I said it showed what life is like. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120/60 "2015-10-01T19:00:02Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Everything about it, in every scene was made to try and show what life is like - in the view of the author and/or director. Thats art, isnt it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-whose-reputation-wrongly-decayed-over-time/733120.md?page=4)