How many of you were taught the narratives of story telling in high school? It was drilled into us.
To quote from Wikipedia on Narratives:
In works of narrative, conflict is the challenge main characters need to solve to achieve their goals.
So, of the 4 main types of conflict for a good narrative:
Man against man
Man against nature
Man against self
Man against society
Once I think of movies of any type except “man against man” a whole bunch of movies come to mind.
No- for a while, Shakespeare THINKS that’s what happened, and he blames himself for getting Marlow killed. But it turns out Marlow was killed in an unrelated barroom brawl.
From Wikipedia on The Poseidon Adventure: “The S.S. Poseidon, an ocean liner slated for retirement, is on her way to Athens. Despite protests from the captain, who fears for the ship’s safety, the new owner’s representative insists he go full speed to save money, preventing him from taking on ballast.”
There’s also the officer who tells people to stay put in the dining room, which doesn’t go well for those who decide to stay put.
Twelve Angry Men: There’s some clearly bad men in that room. In particular Juror 10 (played by Ed Begley in the original movie) is one nasty jerk.
Bull Durham is a famous defiance of many baseball movie tropes, in particular the concept of good guys and bad guys. There’s no huge “underdog comes back to win” story or anything like that… it’s about baseball, sex, and life.
Finding Nemo doesn’t really have any antagonists. Everyone who tried to eat the heroes was just hungry. The dentist and Darla were both just ignorant.
Comedies, biopics, and character studies often don’t have bad guys. Here are some that don’t fall into those categories:
Once
Sideways (yeah, the two main characters are a couple of schmucks, but they’re not movie bad guys)
Rain Man
Cinema Paradiso
Bull Durham (already mentioned by ekedolphin)
Chan Is Missing
Lars and the Real Girl (sort of a comedy, I guess)
Pieces of April
You Can Count on Me
Manchester by the Sea
The Sweet Hereafter
That’s an interesting one, given the subject matter.
I don’t think the scientist character who insisted the US take the unexpected opportunity to launch a full-scale attack on the USSR was a bad guy, but he was certainly advocating an extremely destructive course of action when others were attempting to prevent any escalation.
The lead character of Rain Man commits blackmail and kidnapping, plus he’s an asshole to everyone he meets, how is he not a bad guy? (Yes, I know, by the end he learns to not be such a jerk…)
I think of a bad guy as an antagonist; someone whose role is to present an obstacle and moral motivation to the protagonist. In this sense, he’s not a bad guy. He’s a terrible person whose purpose in the story is to learn how to be a decent human being.
In other words, a bad person isn’t necessarily a “bad guy.”