# Movies with some "unique" feature

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 12, 2003, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629 "2003-08-12T13:06:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/21 "2003-08-12T21:28:12Z")

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In Otto Preminger’s **Skidoo** , all the closing credits are sung.

I would add Alfred Hitchcock’s **Blackmail** and Josef von Sternberg’s **The Blue Angel** among the multiple version titles, except releasing a silent & sound version (for the former) and an English & German-language version (for the latter) wasn’t unique–they are just the most famous examples of each.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/22 "2003-08-12T21:36:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Walloon \*  
> \*\*There are two versions of the musical **Oklahoma!** (1955), one shot in the 65mm Todd-AO process at 30 f.p.s., the other shot in 35mm CinemaScope at 24 f.p.s. Each version is composed of entirely separate takes of each scene. When this dual-process shooting was used again the following year with **Carousel** , star Frank Sinatra quit rather than have to make the same movie twice.
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Amazing! Have you ever seen side-by-side takes from the two different versions? Which version is most widely shown–which was used for the DVD, etc?

Brings to mind the Spanish-language version of Dracula (1931). Filmed at the same time, same sets, same costumes, but with a Spanish-speaking cast.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2003, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/23 "2003-08-12T22:17:31Z")

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Up until recently, only the CinemaScope version of **Oklahoma!** was shown on television. But a few years ago Fox restored the Todd-AO version, and that version is now the default version shown on cable network showings. I’ve seen the CinemaScope version numerous times, and the Todd-AO version once; but as for side-by-side comparison of scenes, only the song _People Will Say We’re in Love_.

There’s no reason to assume that the performances are consistently any better in one version over the other; after all, sometimes actors give better performances on the first take, sometimes on later takes. And of course the songs are pre-recorded, so there’s no difference in the singing performances.

The difference comes visually: the Todd-AO version has a sharper, detailed resolution and much finer grain. And with the camera running at 30 f.p.s. (the same scan rate as television), movement, both of performers in front of the camera, and the camera itself during dolly, panning, or tracking shots, has less blur and looks more realistic.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2003, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/24 "2003-08-12T22:56:51Z")

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I can’t believe that no one’s mentioned **Lola rennt** (aka Run, Lola, Run) yet.

The story loops back on itself three times, with the main character (Lola) making different choices each time resulting in different outcomes.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2003, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/25 "2003-08-12T23:22:44Z")

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**The Ring** has no title screen or begining credits at all.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/26 "2003-08-13T00:39:20Z")

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**Cube**.

Shot in a single set, with changing-color walls.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/27 "2003-08-13T02:24:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tjblack \*  
> \*\*I can’t believe that no one’s mentioned **Lola rennt** (aka Run, Lola, Run) yet.
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> The story loops back on itself three times, with the main character (Lola) making different choices each time resulting in different outcomes. \*\*

**Sliding Doors** had pretty much the same gimmick, though.

We see two different versions of Gweneth Paltrow’s life, one when she catches the train and another where she misses it.

Getting back to the OP, Louis Malle’s **Black Moon** had no dialogue, either.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/28 "2003-08-13T02:41:09Z")

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> Add the early talkie The Terror (1928) to the list of movies whose credits are spoken, in this case onscreen by caped and masked actor Conrad Nagel.

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> In Otto Preminger’s Skidoo, all the closing credits are sung.

Interesting - I’ll have to look those up. But are they seaking/singing credits that also appear _written_ on screen? In the cases I give, the credits are _only_ spoken – there’s no writing.

I’ve met some of the guys who developed Todd-AO. They gave me a strip of the extra-wide Todd-AO film. It’s important to point out that Todd-AO required a special, curved screen, kinda like the Omnimax theaters of today, in order to get the full effect – it wasn’t just another anamorphic widescreen process like Panavision. So when you see those movis on your TV, it ain’t the same.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/29 "2003-08-13T02:49:09Z")

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I was going to point out _Incubus_ (1965) as being the only movie in Esperanto, but IMDb also lists _Angoroj_ (1964) and _La Eta Knabino_. There are also five movies - including _Gattaca_ (!) - which have English and Esperanto listed as languages, and one which is in Serbo-Croatian and Esperanto.

Esperanto is not the rarest language in their database. There three titles in each of [Bable dialect](http://us.imdb.com/List?language=Bable%20dialect&&tv=on&&heading=10;Bable%20dialect&&nav=/Sections/Languages/Babledialect/include-titles) (?), Hopi, Malinka, Navajo, Breton, Chaozhou, Grebo, Ojibwa, Shanghainese, Shoshone, Soussan, and Sanskrit.

There are two entries each for Djerma, Khasi, Lao, Maithili, Maya, Polynesian, Rhaeto-Romanic, Scanian, Soninke, Ayamara, Baka, Cheyenne, Dogri, Fon, Haoussa, Ibo, Ladakhi, Lingala, Occitan, Provençal, Serere, Shona, Sotho, Tzotzil, Haryanvi, Kaado, Karaja, Mandingo, and Valencian.

Finally, there is a single entry for each of Corsican, Hassanya, Kandarian, Karbi, Korowai, Kunwinjku, Middle English, Nyaneka, Ojihimba, Shanxi, Sicilian, Tatar, Bodo, Desia, Faliash, Kodava, Kru, Macro-Jê, Manchu, Mende, Miso, Nisga’a, Pawnee, Tamashek, Teochew, Tigrigna, Washoe, Xhosa, Chhattisgarhi, Gumatj, Khanty, Kikongo, Konkani, Kuna, Kwakiutl, Magahi, Marshallese, Micmac, Moso, Nushi, Parsee, Pular, Sardinian, Tarahumara, Tlingit, and Yapese.

(I apologize for misspelling any of these languages.) Now, I’m sure that for one reason or another, a lot of these don’t “count”, but it seems to me there are a lot of unique movies when it comes to language.

…Klingon even has 12 entries…

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/30 "2003-08-13T02:50:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rabid Child \*  
> \*\ ***The Ring** has no title screen or begining credits at all. \*\*

Neither does **28 Days Later…**

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/31 "2003-08-13T03:03:57Z")

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> The Ring has no title screen or begining credits at all.

This has actually become pretty common lately. A lot of movies have a “title card” at the end, along with all the credits.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/32 "2003-08-13T03:48:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jsc1953 \*  
> \*\*Hitchcock’s _Rope_ was shot without cuts. Each take lasted as long as it took to run the film through the camera. \*\*

Others have pointed out that it did have cuts. They were done in a way that could appear seamless but cuts had to be made.

What was impressive (although I’m not sure if it was _unique_) was that the movie took place in real time. The movie is 81 minutes long and the events takes place over 81 minutes. It was also cool because the skyline got gradually darker as the sun set and night approached.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/33 "2003-08-13T03:51:23Z")

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Speaking of music in _The Birds_, was there a song the children sang – maybe heard on the playground?

What was the name of the movie from the last four years or so – where there were four shots on the screen througout the entire movie?

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/34 "2003-08-13T03:59:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zoe \*  
> **Speaking of music in _The Birds_, was there a song the children sang – maybe heard on the playground?**

[That roundelay song from _The Birds_.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=132186)

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/35 "2003-08-13T04:38:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \*  
> \*\*There are other movies that do the exact same thing, but I can’t remember them(short-term memory loss, perhaps?). \*\*

Pulp Fiction also does interesting things with time sequence.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/36 "2003-08-13T05:02:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Alphagene \*  
> \*\*Others have pointed out that it did have cuts. They were done in a way that could appear seamless but cuts had to be made. \*\*

Did you read my post above? There is at least one non-seamless, intentional, on-screen cut in _Rope_.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/37 "2003-08-13T05:10:00Z")

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In Gangs of New York, You never see a punch connecting, or a knife going into a body, or a club connecting with someone. You only see the action and the result.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/38 "2003-08-13T06:15:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Alphagene \*  
> What was impressive (although I’m not sure if it was _unique_) was that the movie took place in real time. The movie is 81 minutes long and the events takes place over 81 minutes. It was also cool because the skyline got gradually darker as the sun set and night approached. \*\*

I actually did not know that **Rope** was filmed in realtime. However, it was definately first used, brilliantly, in the classic Western movie **High Noon** and repeated in, among other movies I think, **Nick of Time**

As for movies with totally unique features, other than those already mentioned, I have to think a bit more… 😕

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/39 "2003-08-13T06:30:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RealTronic \*  
> **I actually did not know that Rope was filmed in realtime. However, it was definately first used, brilliantly, in the classic Western movie High Noon**

Whoops, no. Real time was used in the feature [The Set-Up](http://us.imdb.com/Details?0041859) (1949), three years before **High Noon**.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-some-unique-feature/194629/40 "2003-08-13T06:51:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Walloon \*  
> \*\*Whoops, no. Real time was used in the feature [The Set-Up](http://us.imdb.com/Details?0041859) (1949), three years before **High Noon**. \*\*

Sorry. I had never heard of that movie. Found this point of information, re High Noon vs The Set Up too:

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> _from IMDB_  
> **The film lasts exactly 72 minutes from the opening to the closing shot (unlike “High Noon”, for example, which is shorter than the time shown on the clocks).**

:smack:

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