# Movies with stupidly large plotholes... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 10, 2001, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386 "2001-01-10T19:35:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2002, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/121 "2002-03-17T09:21:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jmullaney \* > \*\ ***Red Dawn** comes to mind. A few teenagers against the entire Russian military (which did manage to defeat the U.S. military lickety split). OK movie other than that. \*\* I don’t think that was the case. The United States military wasn’t just defeated lickety split. The nation was divided in half by forces invading from Cuba and Mexico I think. After all the pilot guy didn’t appear in the movie until well after the invasion. And the _Wolverines_ employed guerilla tactics against a vastly superior foe. And more evidence that the US military wasn’t wiped out was some character, the pilot maybe, mentioning that someone thought of sending the Green Berets in to assist the Wolverines. Implausable as it all sounds I don’t think it was a plot hole. Marc ---
**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2002, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/122 "2002-03-17T14:54:41Z")
**SPOILERS BELOW OF COURSE** (just look for the bold titles) _Stephen King’s_ **The Stand** - The super-flu kills over 99.9% of the population, sparing only a lucky few who are completely immune to the virus. Immunity has nothing to do with genetics (this is explained better in the book) … in fact, in both the movie and book, i don’t think any 2 people survive that are closely related to one another. But, in the end, Molly Ringwald’s (Frannie’s) baby is born with the super-flu, but somehow overcomes it, because one of her parents was immune to the virus. The doctor even says that once babies are born with both parents being immune, the super-flu will be a thing of the past. It looks like King is subscribing to Lamarks (sp?) theory of evolution here. **Unbreakable** - Sammy L. is searching for the polar opposite of himself … the person who is “unbreakable”. He does this by creating disasters which kill a few hundred, maybe a thousand or two people at a time. There are 6 billion people on this planet! The odds of him finding the one person by killing only a few thousand people is astronimically small. The fact that he actually accomplishes this with only three tries is even more bizarre. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2002, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/123 "2002-03-17T18:01:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*In Dogma, at first they didn’t know they were going to destroy the universe, but after they find out, Bartelby decides to go with it. He would have a clean slate when he comes out, including all intention to destroy the universe. He would then be immediatly shot dead by cops, without time to think about destroying the universe. \*\* I haven’t even seen this movie, but your explanation doesn’t work. It’s ridiculous to claim that he wouldn’t have time to think about his plan to destroy the universe. It’s not as if he had to stop and think up the plan, he already had it worked out. It would take no measureable amount of time to think about it again. In fact, he would have to be thinking about it if his next action would be to intentionally walk out into police gunfire in order to complete the plan. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2002, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/124 "2002-03-17T19:07:04Z")
“Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure”- How did Rufus “know” that he had to go back in time and save Bill and Ted from flunking? If they HAD flunked…Rufus and co wouldn’t even know who they were, or have such a great civilization. There’d be no Wyld Stallion, etc… If they passed, then why would Rufus need to go back in time and help them? Do you see what I mean…I guess it’s kind of a paradox. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2002, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/125 "2002-03-18T06:53:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RealityChuck \* > \*\*But the Nostromo is owned by a big corporation. It’s obvious that corporation’s owners aren’t going to care about about the crew. But why in hell did they put those billions of tons of ore aboard in jeopardy? It had to be fairly valuable stuff or they wouldn’t have mined it in the first place. > \*\* It’s not like they’ll lose the ship, either. The crew points it at Earth, then gets eaten by the alien. Fifty years later, the ship full of ore and valuable space aliens shows up. They get the cargo, the bio-weapon, and they don’t have to pay the crew for overtime. > [@](#): > > \*\* > And why in God’s name do they smoke aboard a spaceship? It’s not like oxygen is a plentiful substance the space.\*\* Eh. The ship probably has some manner of replenishing the O2. Or they have really good air scrubbers. Or, since they spend so much of the journey in hibernation, they’ve got lots of oxygen to spare. > [@](#): > > _originally posted by New and Improved Scott_\*\* > For Alien, one of the major plot holes that was never touched upon in the movie (but was explaned later in novels and comics, so not everyone knows about it) is how did the aliens send out a distress beacon?\*\* They didn’t. The distress signal was sent by the unknown alien species that built and piloted the ship that had crashed on that planet. > [@](#): > > \*\* > So the ship in Alien is a Predator ship that went down, and the Aliens went wild. \*\* No, it wasn’t. We see the dessicated remains of one of the aliens, in some sort of giant gun-shaped seat, with it’s chest burst open. It’s clearly much larger than a Predator, maybe twenty feet tall, and has vaguely elephantine facial features. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2002, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/126 "2002-03-18T07:10:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zoggie \* > \*\*“Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure”- How did Rufus “know” that he had to go back in time and save Bill and Ted from flunking? > > If they HAD flunked…Rufus and co wouldn’t even know who they were, or have such a great civilization. There’d be no Wyld Stallion, etc… > > If they passed, then why would Rufus need to go back in time and help them? Do you see what I mean…I guess it’s kind of a paradox. \*\* “Dudes, you future guys gotta totally remember to send us a time machine in, like, 1989, or Bill’s going to get sent to military school.” “In Alaska!” “Yeah, which is like, totally bogus.” “So you guys have to get Rufus to come back and help us pass our history final, other things are going to supremely lame in the future.” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/127 "2002-03-19T16:46:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lamia \*\*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \* > > The Jack in the past was distracted by hearing his future self over the radio, enabling the mother to jump him and resulting in his hand being essentially shot off. The Jack in the present had been using that hand to hold down the son. How would you feel if you suddenly lost a part of your body and have no idea how it happened? > > But the thing is, _Frequency_ made it quite clear from the beginning that changes to the timeline were retroactive. No one was aware of the different timelines except for the son. So from Jack’s perspective he _didn’t_ suddenly loose a hand. He lost the hand thirty years ago.\*\* This God-forsaken paradox is giving me a headache but I think I’ve sorted it out now. 1. The son is the only one aware of the different timelines. 2. The son is also the only one in the present who had contact with the past via the radio. 3. Dad doesn’t die in the fire. 4. Son gaines new memories. 5. Jack-in-the-Present also has contact with the past via the radio when trying to kill the son. 6. Jack-in-the-Present is now aware of the different timelines, too. 7. Jack-in-the-Past gets shot in the hand. 8. Jack-in-the-Present suddenly loses _his_hand. 9. Jack-in-the-Present gains new memories, including how he lost that hand. 10. Jack-in-the-Present reacts to the new memories similar to how the son reacted. 11. Dad uses the moment to finish off Jack. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/128 "2002-03-19T17:15:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lamia \* > \*\* > > I haven’t even seen this movie, but your explanation doesn’t work. It’s ridiculous to claim that he wouldn’t have time to think about his plan to destroy the universe. It’s not as if he had to stop and think up the plan, he already had it worked out. It would take no measureable amount of time to think about it again. In fact, he would have to be thinking about it if his next action would be to intentionally walk out into police gunfire in order to complete the plan. \*\* Gah! Okay, i’ll try again, but i don’t know enough about Catholisism (Wow!) to know if this would work. Say they go throught the gate, and all their sins are wiped. They then say “hey, don’t kill us, you’ll destroy the universe!” to the cops, but the cops kill them anyway. In fact, the cops would kill them no matter what they do upon exiting the church. So the cops killing them is a given and if they try to not get killed, then they did their best to prevent it and aren’t technically committing mortal sins. Or maybe they go to heaven for processing before being shipped to Hell, and that alone is enought to unmake existance. Maybe i should stop trying to explain this point, and instead focus on why did Troll 2 have no trolls in it? It had Goblins, in the town of Nilbog!!! but no Trolls! I call that a plothole! ---
**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/129 "2002-03-19T18:30:40Z")
One that’s always annoyed me since I even picked up on it as a little kid. In the first Superman, Lex explains that “even with your great speed” Superman can’t get the two missiles in time. Then, when Lois dies what’s he do? Zips around the planet fast enough to reverse its rotation. I’m no geographer, but it seems to me that if ol’ Supe can circumnavigate the globe dozens of times per second, he can cross North America in 10-15 minutes. Granted, it’s Superman, so the whole thing is far-fetched, but at least make it consistent within its own world. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/130 "2002-03-19T18:50:07Z")
You’re complaining about that and not Superman flying around the world backwards causing Earth to rotate backwards and therefore go back in time??? ---
**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/131 "2002-03-19T19:06:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*You’re complaining about that and not Superman flying around the world backwards causing Earth to rotate backwards and therefore go back in time??? \*\* Well, yeah, like I said, that’s pretty far-fetched (to say the least). It’s not totally inconsistent with what’s just happened though. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/132 "2002-03-19T19:33:15Z")
> [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally posted by PatrickM > > The plot hole in Silence of the Lambs that always bugged me was that the FBI does not send assign rookie agents to solely handle any cases, let alone cases involving dangerous serial killers. > > > > But then Hannibal’s terrorizing of Agent Starling wouldn’t have happened. > > I think the reason she got this assignment was because of her relationship with the Scott Glenn character. IIRC, he was her “mentor” and was giving her a shot based on the abilities he observed in her. I think this was explained in more detail in the book. The whole idea of her going to see Dr. Lechter “to do this evaluation” was a long shot. Crawford wanted Lechter’s insight into the Buffalo Bill case, but he knew Lechter would never cooperate willingly. He didn’t even tell Starling any of this because he figured (correctly) that Lechter would have picked up any duplicity on her part and refuse to talk to her. As it was, it was only because “Multiple” Miggs splattered her with semen that got Lechter’s sympathy aroused enough to give her the clue about the head in the car. After the initial meeting, Crawford (probably refusing to bow to pressure from “upstairs”) kept Starling on the case, because she had established a rapport with Dr. Lechter, something _no one_ had ever done before. If Chilton hadn’t screwed it up, they would have caught Buffalo Bill and wouldn’t have Lechter on the loose. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/133 "2002-03-19T19:34:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\* > > Gah! Okay, i’ll try again, but i don’t know enough about Catholisism (Wow!) to know if this would work. Say they go throught the gate, and all their sins are wiped. They then say “hey, don’t kill us, you’ll destroy the universe!” to the cops, but the cops kill them anyway. In fact, the cops would kill them no matter what they do upon exiting the church. So the cops killing them is a given and if they try to not get killed, then they did their best to prevent it and aren’t technically committing mortal sins. > \*\* The only way their plan could possibly work would be if, in the exact same instant that they are absolved of their past sins, they also honestly and whole-heartedly stop desiring to destroy the universe. It is the desire itself that is sinful, regardless of their actions. So they would be sinners even if they tried avoiding death. In fact, I am not sure if they could escape sin even if they really lost their desire to destroy the universe, as they knew that their death in a sinless state would lead to that destruction. So if they refused to use their last moments to sin and thus save the universe, I believe they would just find themselves guilty of a sin of omission rather than a sin of comission. This is why I avoid Kevin Smith films – the man tries to be clever, but he’s just nto smart enough to pull it off. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/134 "2002-03-19T20:28:21Z")
Yeah, well, um, hmmm,…Not a finger!!! ::Runs away crying:: ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/135 "2002-03-19T21:20:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sealemon88 \* > \*\*Starship Troopers…I know, it’s that ‘kickboxing wit a first grader’ thing again, but I really question the idea of invading a bunch of obviously crap planets with infantry. No armor, no air support (Except one bombing run), no heavy weapontry. > > The thing is, the bugs were launching asteroids at Earth from their home system, right? So, when our ships got to their system, \why didn’t we launch their asteroids right back at them? They were right there in orbit!!! Why not carpet nuke the planet and be done with it?\\*\* Gawd I hated this movie. I mercifully forgot a lot of details, so bear with me: 1. The ridiculously stupid battle plan mentioned above. Almost all of the bugs were land-bound, yet we send in thousands of ground troops with almost non-existant air-support. Airwolf with the A-Team on board could have won this war single-handedly. 2. The co-ed showers. Not a surprising feature in a future envisioned by Paul Verhoeven, but as long as men and women still have sex for recreational purposes, this will never happen. Notice how what’s her name quickly covered herself up when someone else got her and the main character dude in the sack? (told ya I forgot the details) 3. At one point, if I remember right the main character was hurt on the field. One of the bugs pounced on him, and the camera angle made it look like he was about to get eaten. A quick cut to a scene back at base, and our hero is recovering nicely in a big vat of goo. Hooray! However, later - the main female gets a jab in the stomach from a bug - and it proves to be fatal! What, did they run out of goo? 4. Doogie Howser is the commanding officer of no man. ---
**Author:** ![monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monster)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/136 "2002-03-19T22:29:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monocracy \* > \*\ ***SPOILERS BELOW OF COURSE** (just look for the bold titles) > > _Stephen King’s_ **The Stand** - The super-flu kills over 99.9% of the population, sparing only a lucky few who are completely immune to the virus. Immunity has nothing to do with genetics (this is explained better in the book) … in fact, in both the movie and book, i don’t think any 2 people survive that are closely related to one another. But, in the end, Molly Ringwald’s (Frannie’s) baby is born with the super-flu, but somehow overcomes it, because one of her parents was immune to the virus. The doctor even says that once babies are born with both parents being immune, the super-flu will be a thing of the past. It looks like King is subscribing to Lamarks (sp?) theory of evolution here. > \*\* Ok, I’m going to take a stab at this one. The way I understood it was, when the superflu was introduced, _nobody_ was “immune”. Nobody had been exposed to it before, so nobody had been able to build up immunity. Some people got it, and others didn’t. The reason for the survivors’ immunity to the disease was never discovered (although I believe they were the “chosen ones” to survive). And yes, even the bad people were chosen. Anyway, Frannie’s baby, when born, was exposed to the superflu and recovered because of Frannie’s “immunity” (that was provided by God). Of course, again, it is just a story, but I think that would explain it. ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/137 "2002-03-19T22:41:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Finagle \* > Your average bird weighs about five ounces. (Let’s not get into laden or unladen swallows here.) Even large seagulls probably don’t weigh much more than ten pounds. And they’ve got hollow lightweight bones. So when birds invade, you put on a heavy jacket and some gloves. You go down to the basement and get some safety goggles, a helmet if you’ve got one, and, most importantly, a tennis racket. Then it’s just clobbering time. **Finagle** , the imagery of a person in said get-up swatting at seagulls with a tennis racket (cover on or off?) is downright hilarious. Oh and in The Blues Brothers, the lead singer of the Good Ole Boys does indeed say to Jake (posing as a union rep) that he would love to stay and talk but he’s very late. I was going to mention Terminator 2, but I think that has more continuity issues than out-and-out plot holes. And it’s my understanding that Paul Verhoeven did the co-ed shower scene to “loosen up” the actors. I think the imdb will back me up on that. Was Denise Richards in that part? ---
**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/138 "2002-03-19T22:55:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kaylasdad99 \* > \*\*…but bear with me: > > In _Sleeping Beauty_, Princess Aurora (aka Briar Rose) is lured up into the tower by Maleficent’s will-o’-the-wisp. Then she sees the spinning wheel. Maleficent’s voice says “Touch the spindle. **Touch it!** ” And then Aurora touches the spindle, and falls asleep, yadda, yadda, you know the drill. > > But since King Stefan had burned all of the spinning wheels in the kingdom when Aurora was a tiny baby, this had to be the first spinniing wheel she’d ever seen. So how did she know what part was the spindle? \*\* Answer: King Stefan did have all the spinning wheels in the palace burned. However, after that, the fairies decided to raise Aurora in the forest by themselves without magic. As such, they would have to have the capacity to make clothing in the old-fashioned way. Malificent’s curse said that she would prick her finger on her 16th birthday. Until then, she was safe. I therefore submit to you that the faries had a spinning wheel around the cottage and got rid of it shortly before her 16th birthday. Alternatively, she could have seen a picture of one in a book. Zev Steinhardt ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/139 "2002-03-19T23:54:58Z")
What, nobody remembers _Jaws: The Revenge_? I hear that the city of Baltimore is considering purchasing a videotape the film and burying it in the Bay instead of refurbishing the current harbor tunnel. Truck traffic should increase dramatically as a result. You’ve got psychic, vengeful, supersonic sharks that explode when prodded with a stick (perhaps it’s a cyborg shark–we certainly get to see the machinery that drives it often enough). You’ve got family members that die and are never spoken of again. Hell, you’ve got a family that decides it’s a good idea to escape the aforementioned super-shark by vacationing in _the f_\*_ing Bahamas_, rather than someplace less shark-friendly, like Kansas. Not that it would have mattered, because the damned thing probably would have hidden in someone’s outhouse had they gone to Kansas. You’ve even got Mario van Peebles doing an impression of Schroedinger’s Cat. In some versions he dies after being gnawed on and dragged into the deep, in other versions he lives–after being gnawed on and dragged into the deep. To watch that film without being personally offended, one must not merely suspend disbelief. Disbelief must be put on half rations in a darkened cell the size of a walk-in closet. It still pisses me off. ---
**Author:** ![lenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@lenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lenin)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2002, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386/140 "2002-04-13T00:26:46Z")
2 things. 1. Presumably, since the whole idea of Catholicism WOW! is to make the church look less strict, the mere thought of destroying the universe is no longer grounds for mortal sinnery. Furthermore, since all sins are absolved, that could me that all sinful thoughts are poofed away too, so they have no idea what they’re doing once they pass through. Don’t hate Kevin Smith just because you like nitpicking. 2. One could argue that in Double Jeopardy, that since the woman served a prison sentence for murder(that she can easily appeal and get aquitted for before being sentenced for the next one), and in most counties serving time without being found guilty for a crime entitles you to time credit towards your sentence, she would be found guilty of murder but serve 0 days. The main fault with the whole movie is: She was charged with **2nd** degree murder in **Washington**. She committed **1st** degree murder in **New Orleans**. I mean, what the fuck were they smoking? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-stupidly-large-plotholes/49386.md?page=8)