# Movies with Women playing Men (and Vice-Versa). NOT like Mrs., Doubtfire **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [October 12, 2023, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-women-playing-men-and-vice-versa-not-like-mrs-doubtfire/991457 "2023-10-12T11:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-women-playing-men-and-vice-versa-not-like-mrs-doubtfire/991457/81 "2023-10-15T12:16:28Z")
Which is interesting, because I think Swinton identifies as non-binary, right? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-women-playing-men-and-vice-versa-not-like-mrs-doubtfire/991457/82 "2023-10-15T12:28:30Z")
She identifies as queer. She has expressed interest in androgyny and an androgynous life-style, but I believe her long-term partners have been male for what that’s worth. “I’m very clear that queer is actually, for me anyway, to do with sensibility. I always felt I was queer – I was just looking for my queer circus, and I found it. And having found it, it’s my world.” “It just so happened I’d also been a queer kid – not in terms of my sexual life, just odd.” ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-women-playing-men-and-vice-versa-not-like-mrs-doubtfire/991457/83 "2023-10-15T12:38:29Z")
Thanks for the clarification! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-women-playing-men-and-vice-versa-not-like-mrs-doubtfire/991457/84 "2023-10-15T12:59:39Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Both Strange and Mordo consistently refer to the Ancient One as “she”. Ah, that would seem to settle it, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-women-playing-men-and-vice-versa-not-like-mrs-doubtfire/991457/85 "2023-10-15T15:58:25Z")
Dr. Girlfriend, in The Venture Brothers, is voiced by Doc Hammer, who doesn’t even try to sound like a woman. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-women-playing-men-and-vice-versa-not-like-mrs-doubtfire/991457/86 "2023-11-19T09:25:33Z")
Here’s one I should have thought of earlier - Alistair Sim as both [Miss Fritton (headmistress of St Trinian’s) and her rascally brother.](https://youtu.be/VKzCKoO-K9I?feature=shared) Rupert Everett also played her in a more recent revival. ---
**Author:** ![eburacum45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum45/32/8690_2.png) [@eburacum45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum45)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-women-playing-men-and-vice-versa-not-like-mrs-doubtfire/991457/87 "2023-11-19T09:39:42Z")
Good grief! They should have got Rupert Everett to play the new Queen in The Crown! [![](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/59/65/9f/59659f00adcaa2fa7c73cbdf440078cb.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/59/65/9f/59659f00adcaa2fa7c73cbdf440078cb.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-women-playing-men-and-vice-versa-not-like-mrs-doubtfire/991457/88 "2023-11-19T13:39:40Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I’ve been noticing cases of films where women play men – not as a plot element, or in some weird transgender twist or the like. The director simply decided for some reason to cast a woman in a role that is undeniably male. I’m thinking about _The Watch_ (damn you for making me think about _The Watch_) where Lord Vetinari is played by a woman. In a dress. But still called “Lord” and “he”. It wasn’t a plot element but it may have been a weird transgender twist, I have no idea with that confused worthless trainwreck. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-with-women-playing-men-and-vice-versa-not-like-mrs-doubtfire/991457.md?page=4)