# Movies you absolutely adore that you think fell through the cracks

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 16, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028 "2015-08-16T23:11:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/201 "2015-08-28T13:49:34Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Tom Hanks’ and Meg Ryan’s first movie together, [Joe vs. the Volcano](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099892/?ref_=nv_sr_2). Bombed at the box office, more or less, and was overshadowed by Hanks’ and Ryan’s later collaborations.

I dunno how much it’s fallen through the cracks.

Around here, you can probably get into a bigger debate about this movie than almost any other - people either love it or hate it, and either way, feel pretty strongly about it.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/202 "2015-08-28T13:54:51Z")

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Yeah, I’m among the haters.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/203 "2015-08-28T14:01:39Z")

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There are movies I love because they’re soooo soooo bad. Independence Day is one, though it’s hardly fallen through the cracks. It’s on so often it seem to practically have its own channel.

But one even more horrible move has fallen through, or perhaps been pounded down through the cracks – **The Wicker Man** remake with Nick Cage. It is the most hilariously awful movie I’ve ever seen, and I never see it anymore. Maybe Nick Cage is paying stations not to air it?

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/204 "2015-08-29T06:25:52Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> No offense, but I think you might be on crack. De Niro’s last great film? Maybe if you don’t count Goodfellas, A Bronx Tale, Casino, Heat, Meet the Parents, The Good Shepherd and a dozen “kind of great” films.

Hmmm…DeNiro’s in them you say?

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/205 "2015-08-29T07:15:21Z")

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I was going to mention _Near Dark_, but see it’s already been mentioned, so I’ll bring up a similar, fantastic, even more original horror movie.  
_Wolfen_.

Just as _Near Dark_ was a vampire movie where the word vampire is never used, _Wolfen_ is a werewolf movie where the word werewolf is never used and just as _28 Days Later i_s a zombie movie without any zombies, _Wolfen_ is a werewolf movie without any werewolves.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/206 "2015-08-29T21:12:50Z")

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Just recalled another little gem that’s all about the characters and dialog –_The Station Agent_. Peter Dinklage plays a withdrawn trainspotter who’s unable to stop some other oddball characters from hanging out with him.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/207 "2015-08-30T04:53:14Z")

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_52 Pick-up_, '86 filmed version of a 1974 Elmore Leonard novel, directed by John Frankenheimer. Roy Scheider and Ann-Margret are a well-off LA couple blackmailed by three inept, utter sleazebags, memorably played by John Glover, Clarence Williams III and Robert Trebor. Oh, and you get to see…really quite a lot of Vanity at her most stunning. The ending doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, but the rest is a thick slice of grittiness, with some great lines and performances.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/208 "2015-08-30T19:13:48Z")

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The thread title had me immediately think of Wristcutters: A Love Story, but darn if it didn’t already get mentioned on page 2. (I just love that in the suicide afterlife, nobody can physically smile.)

So I stopped to think of another and came up with Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, but geez, that was mentioned in post 11.

Wracking my brain for a _third_ choice, I’ll say [Triangle](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1187064/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1). Love love love this movie. So much so that I even [created a thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=627798) about it.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/209 "2015-08-31T14:19:09Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> But one even more horrible move has fallen through, or perhaps been pounded down through the cracks – **The Wicker Man** remake with Nick Cage. It is the most hilariously awful movie I’ve ever seen, and I never see it anymore. Maybe Nick Cage is paying stations not to air it?

It lives on in selected Youtube clips. Not the Beees! 😃

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/210 "2015-09-02T19:01:45Z")

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[My Life Without Me](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0314412/?ref_=nv_sr_1)

Despite a rather downer topic, it’s really a very sweet and sincere movie. I’ve mentioned it on the site a few times, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone else post to say they’ve seen it.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/211 "2015-09-02T19:32:28Z")

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Good call. I love My Life Without Me, but then I’m a huge Sarah Polley fan. A bunch of her movies would fit this thread for me just because I dig her so much. (Going all the way back to Baron Munchausen.)

Guinevere  
Go  
The Weight of Water  
No Such Thing  
My Life Without Me  
The I Inside  
The Secret Life of Words

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/212 "2015-09-03T22:18:37Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Just recalled another little gem that’s all about the characters and dialog –_The Station Agent_. Peter Dinklage plays a withdrawn trainspotter who’s unable to stop some other oddball characters from hanging out with him.

I enjoyed that one! Great film, but too-little remembered.

My offering: _They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?_ On its face, it’s the story of a 1930s dance marathon and the contestants; but underneath, it reveals the contestants’ motivations, the promoter’s not-always-legit efforts to draw admission-paying crowds, and the ultimate futility of participating. It is a fascinating character study, and was much talked-about back in 1969, when it was released; today, it seems to have been forgotten.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/213 "2015-09-03T22:33:09Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I enjoyed that one! Great film, but too-little remembered.
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> My offering: _They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?_ On its face, it’s the story of a 1930s dance marathon and the contestants; but underneath, it reveals the contestants’ motivations, the promoter’s not-always-legit efforts to draw admission-paying crowds, and the ultimate futility of participating. It is a fascinating character study, and was much talked-about back in 1969, when it was released; today, it seems to have been forgotten.

It’s not entirely forgotten. It was the movie that proved Jane Fonda could handle heavy drama and Gig Young won an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor as the MC. However, it is probably one of the most depressing movies released that’s not in Swedish or German. If Prozac had been around in 1969, they would have sold it at the theaters where this movie was playing instead of popcorn.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/214 "2015-09-03T22:52:23Z")

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Some of my favorites that have not been mentioned:

_ **Incident at Loch Ness** _ – comedy featuring Werner Herzog at his acting best  
_ **Quills** _ – Geoffrey Rush portraying the Marquis de Sade  
_ **Box of Moonlight** _ – Sam Rockwell’s best bit of weirdness  
_ **Dead Man** _ – Mitchum’s last role, in a Jim Jarmusch movie featuring Johnny Depp and Gary Farmer  
_ **A Life Less Ordinary** _ – a flawed but entertaining Danny Boyle comedy  
_ **I’ll Do Anything** _ – excellent bit of sentimental absurdity about Hollywood types  
_ **In & Out** _ – _I’m not gay_  
_ **Hero** _ – fantastic and funny exploration of what happens when a heroic person is not the kind of person the media wants to portray (Dustin Hoffman, Andy Garcia)  
_ **Rancho Deluxe** _ – Jeff Bridges and Sam Waterson show us real life in '70s Montana  
_ **Äppelkriget** _ (The Apple War) – just plain silliness from early '70s Sweden (where I have heard it is still quite a popular movie)

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/215 "2015-09-03T23:03:51Z")

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Independent video stores were common in the early 80s and then all but disappeared. One of the last ones around anywhere a decade ago was in Bowling Green, Ohio. Walking into the Video Spectrum was like passing through a time portal, and they specialized in the weird and unusual and out-of-the-way. (“Estonian movies? Right between Egyptian and Ethiopian.”) [Bubba Ho-Tep](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0281686/) is a good example of the cool things you’d stumble on there.

I’ve come to like movies that are a bit different because I feel like I’ve seen the same thing over and over and over again. Two relatively recent films which seemed different enough are [Bernie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1704573/?ref_=nv_sr_2) and [Moonrise Kingdom](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1748122/?ref_=nv_sr_1). I don’t know if movies that were up for Independent Spirit Awards can be said to have slipped through the cracks, though.

BTW, I saw The Station Agent in an old single-screen theater and two others in attendance were the town’s two little people. They said it was spot on.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/216 "2015-09-04T02:14:04Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> [Dangerous Beauty](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118892/). It suffered from, best I can recall, absolutely zero marketing, even in industry rags. Added to that, a horribly generic Skinemax cover that reveals absolutely nothing about the film. Nothing about the beautiful cinematography or the vibrant feminist tale wrapped in some awesome angsty romance and a serious morality tale of abusive priests, featuring some of the steamiest not-gross sex scenes ever filmed, all on the backdrop of super glorious 16th century Venice.
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> Starring Catherine McCormack, no less…literally the most beautiful woman in the world.
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> It’s too smart to be a bodice ripper, too racy to be a serious period piece, too funny to be a drama and too dramatic to be a comedy. In other words, it’s perfect, and perfectly awful to market. So they didn’t.

Late to the thread, but I am thrilled that you championed this. There weren’t many people in the theater I watched this in, which was just as well because I was _blubbering_ at the end.

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Snowpiercer. I usually hate action movies but I love this film. It’s based on a french graphic novel. Because of quarreling between Harvey Finestein and the director, there was a very limited release. There’s lots of plot twists. It’s just an amazing movie.

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Two films come to mind.

From 1993 there’s **Twenty Bucks** [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty\_Bucks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Bucks) it features an ensemble cast (Linda Hunt, Brendan Fraser, Gladys Knight, Elisabeth Shue, Steve Buscemi, Christopher Lloyd, William H. Macy,etc…) and follows the “life” of a twenty dollar bill. The odd thing about this film was the screenplay was written in the 1930’s and was edited and modernized to make 60 years later.

The other is perhaps one of the hardest films to actually sit through and watch, from 1998 **Happiness** [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness\_(1998\_film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness_(1998_film))  
It’s called a comedy-drama written & directed by Todd Solondz. It’s humor is **very** dark and isn’t for everyone and features an ensemble cast and a lot of weird odd things that happen.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-absolutely-adore-that-you-think-fell-through-the-cracks/728028/219 "2015-09-04T18:17:56Z")

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Just remembered another one that never got the attention is deserved: [Amazing Grace and Chuck](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092545/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

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> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#):
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> The other is perhaps one of the hardest films to actually sit through and watch, from 1998 **Happiness** [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness\_(1998\_film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness_(1998_film))  
> It’s called a comedy-drama written & directed by Todd Solondz. It’s humor is **very** dark and isn’t for everyone and features an ensemble cast and a lot of weird odd things that happen.

Wow. I saw **Happiness** , but can’t say I adored it.

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