# Movies you know are bad, but still watch/enjoy

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 19, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139 "2013-04-19T15:29:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/181 "2013-05-05T13:05:39Z")

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**Jurassi Park** was just rereleased.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/182 "2013-05-05T14:09:37Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> **Jurassi Park** was just rereleased.

Is [that](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrassi) Kids of Jurassi Street, Jurassi Junior High, or Jurassi High?

😉

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/183 "2013-05-05T15:03:15Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> OK, I’ll say it: _Reign of Fire_. Dragons vs. tanks. Pre-Batman Christian Bale. Matthew McConaughey with a bald pate, leaving teeth marks all over the scenery. A then-unknown Gerard Butler. So much deadpan silliness, and the whole deal concerning the dragons’ life cycle and eating habits makes no sense whatever, but they nevertheless are utterly terrifying whenever they appear.

Don’t forget our post-apocalyptic storytellers playacting an _Empire Strikes Back_ plot twist for receptive kids.

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/184 "2013-05-06T02:54:12Z")

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> [@spywholoved](#):
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> there are a lot of my favorites here…

Yeah, I know what you mean. It feels like the Dopers have been raiding my DVD cabinet. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/185 "2013-05-06T05:17:00Z")

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Mmm, so many good movies. I too, cannot switch channels if Mom & Dad Save the World is on. The fiendish light grenade trap alone!

And to add a recent one, I thoroughly enjoyed and have watched several times now it’s on cable, the remake of “Total Recall.” MUCH better than the original. FAR better. More fun, too. And yet I’ve read many quotes saying it’s not a good movie. I don’t get it, but if they are right, it’s definitely a bad movie I like.

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**Author:** ![monkeytail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@monkeytail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeytail)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/186 "2013-05-06T06:18:19Z")

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Constantine  
Twilight series

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**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/187 "2013-05-06T07:00:04Z")

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I really liked Constantine. Is that considered a bad movie??  
However, my guilty pleasure is the Resident Evil series, so you see the kind of judge I am.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/188 "2013-05-06T07:17:42Z")

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> [@monkeytail](#):
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> Constantine  
> Twilight series

Only 2 problems with Constantine.

1 - Shia LaBeouf  
B - Keanu Reeves doesn’t look or sound like the comic Constantine, and his character differs between the comics and movie.

If comic fans can get past their disappointment that it isn’t a GREAT Constantine comic-to-big-screen adaptation (and I feel their pain to a degree, I started reading it when Hellblazer #1 came out), it’s an enjoyable couple of hours. Tilda Swinton & Peter Stormare made sitting through Shia LaBeouf’s scenes worthwhile. Ok, there’s three things wrong: 3 - not enough Tilda Swinton & Peter Stormare. Oh, and Rachel Weisz was in it, which is always a plus in my mind. I just thought of another problem: D - Rachel Weisz was in movie, but not nude. Unconscionable.

Twilight series? Never saw it, but whazzerface made a great Joan Jett. Really quite good.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/189 "2013-05-06T16:09:17Z")

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I am adding **Stone Cold** with Brian Bosworth and Lance Henrikson as bikers.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/190 "2013-05-06T16:49:40Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> [Ladyhawke.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089457/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec) Came here to say this.
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> Dubious writing. Confusing plot in places. Borderline-obnoxious music (which i concede even as a raving Alan Parsons Project/Andrew Powell fanatic). Some good actors and some good acting, but a bit of scenery noshing as well.
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> But it’s a favorite for entirely relationship reasons.

I like shot of the horse cantoring (the two-by-two stepping… all for showmanship) through the church up to the altar at the end.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/191 "2013-05-06T16:56:57Z")

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> [@aag3981](#):
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> I really liked Constantine. Is that considered a bad movie??  
> However, my guilty pleasure is the Resident Evil series, so you see the kind of judge I am.

Comic book fans dislike it because:

1. Alan Moore created the character to look like Sting, and is obviously English.
2. It’s pronounced Con-stan-TINE, not Con-stan-TEEN
3. Constantine in the comics is deliciously self-agenda’d, with a conscience that only bothers him once in a while, and has few friends BECAUSE he’s sacrificed them to either get ahead or save his own skin. He may be the protagonist, but he’s nowhere near as heroic as the movie version (which, I understand, isn’t that much).
4. Following his negative experience with \*From Hell \*and _The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen_, Moore decided to reject all money and credit from Hollywood on any adaptations of his work. Thus, he gave all the money he would’ve gotten to the artist who drew the character with him, and rejected his own “created by” credit from the film. Moore’s fans, a fairly loyal bunch, thereby decry all of Hollywood’s bastardizations of their writer’s works.

oh, and  
5) I agree, not enough Rachel Weisz.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/192 "2013-05-07T02:09:43Z")

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The Mysterians. This is a really cheesy, poorly done, Japanese, science fiction movie which I love and watch at least once a year.

Contains absolutely the best movie robot ever filmed. Do a Google search and look at the images.

Some versions are better than others because of the dubbing into English.

Bob

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/193 "2013-05-07T13:31:31Z")

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See here!

A few of the movies listed here got decent, even good reviews. And I think Independence Day is a great movie!

That said, on this list I’d put **The Fifth Element** (grudgingly because I think it had some decent ratings and it’s actually good, not a guilty pleasure at all), **Hudson Hawk** , which I could watch endlessly in a loop but got universally panned, and **From Dusk Til Dawn**.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/194 "2013-05-07T14:37:14Z")

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Chronicles of Riddick. I’m surprised Judi Dench deigned to participate.

Dune (David Lynch). Got it on DVD, thinking of getting it on Blu Ray. I know it strays severely from the book, but I loved the sense of style it exhibited.

The Postman. Yeah, it’s got Kevin Costner in it. So what! I still like it. It’s interesting to see something so mundane as mail delivery become a unifying force for a shattered populace - and Will Patton is excellent as a copier repairman whose sadistic military genius is unleashed by war.

Is The Fifth Element really bad? I thought it was primarily a comedy, with science fiction as the setting for it. As a comedy, it’s awesome.

Top Gun. This is as cheesy as it gets. Its primary redeeming feature is that the flight sequences are, for the most part, real.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/195 "2013-05-07T16:30:37Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Xanadu.

this is what I came in to say. Good music… OMG so bad in every other way. I watch it anyway. Hell, I OWN Xanadu on DVD.

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/196 "2013-05-25T18:49:33Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Lazerblast.

Yeah, that’s the one true awsome/awful movie. A bond girl and a male curly Sue as protagonists. David Hasselhoff as first sidecast. A camp police robot. A plot with no sense at all. Terrible effects. Terrible dialogues (and monologues as well). Even the subline of the film, a four dimensional assault, is never shown.

But it all makes this flick so really lovely, you can’t believe it.

All time favourite.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/197 "2013-05-26T07:02:05Z")

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Any Cheech and Chong movie.

A Very Brady Sequel - don’t understand why it’s so hated. It’s far better than the original and even has drug humor.

The Black Hole - Terrible dialogue, cheesy story, but the atmosphere, tone, and look of the film are brilliant. The Cygnus is the coolest spaceship ever in any sci-fi film (beats the Millennium Falcon, The Enterprise, and the Star Destroyers by miles) and Maximillion is easily the most frightening robot ever created by Hollywood. ILM never even came close to toping the Cygnus or Maximillion. (I know that Darth Vader is not a robot, but Maxilillion makes Vader look like the easter bunny). The final scene that takes place in Hell (literally) is genuinely as spooky as anything in The Exorcist.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/198 "2013-05-26T12:36:09Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> That was surprisingly entertaining. Are any of Ed Wood’s other movies watchable?

Definitely Bride of the Monster and Glen or Glenda. I also caught one on MST3K about a girl gang I forget the title of.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/199 "2013-05-26T13:57:44Z")

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> [@fatova\_mingus](#):
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> When someone says they liked or even SAW “Plan 9” they almost always mean “I saw the movie Ed Wood”. No one has seen more than 20 minutes of Plan 9 - the kitsch appeal ends at minute 18 and the last 2 we watch out of spite.

Not only have I watched it all the way through several times, I first saw it on a double bill with _ **They Saved Hitler’s Brain** _. The only other movie that even comes close to these two in terms of sheer awfulness is, IMHO, _ **Billy the Kid vs. Dracula** _.

If you give up on it after the first 20 minutes, you miss the great line “You Earthlings and your puny, juvenile minds! You’re _stupid_, _stupid_, _stupid_!” Which is really the whole message behind the flick.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/200 "2013-05-26T16:04:30Z")

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I will watch David Lynch’s “Dune” if it’s on, for Kyle McLachlan and a couple of scenes. Though it kind of scares me and irritates me in equal measure, I can’t look away.

“Jason X” is a really bad sci-fi movie made with Lisa Ryder and Lexa Doig (before Andromeda), the villain is THE Jason who has stowed away on a spaceship in the year 2525, awakens, and wreaks havoc. But I can’t look away from that, either.

Quite a few MST3K movies are enjoyable, the sci-fi one (forgot what it’s called, but the leading lady looks like Shari Lewis and the wise old leader is dressed in a toga). I always laugh at the ripped hero taking a dive off a golf cart against a background of explosions.

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