# Movies you know are bad, but still watch/enjoy

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 19, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139 "2013-04-19T15:29:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/101 "2013-04-23T17:15:34Z")

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Pootie Tang. Is it bad or is it so great that only a few of us get it? Sa da tay!

> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#):
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> **Overboard**. “Let me pitch you this movie. This guy gets screwed over and wants revenge, so he kidnaps, enslaves, and sexually exploits this woman who has a head injury. What? No, it’s not along the lines of _Last House on the Left_ - it’s a romantic comedy!”
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> And yet, if it’s on, I’ll watch it happily and totally buy in to its intended sweetness.

My wife and I watched this movie so many times it’s like a comfortable chair now. We are a family of me, two boys and a dog (also male), none of us what you would call neat, plus the wife. I think she sees herself in the Goldie role sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4bbf92/32.png) [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heart_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/102 "2013-04-23T17:40:28Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> Pootie Tang. Is it bad or is it so great that only a few of us get it? Sa da tay!

So great, most definitely. And if you say otherwise, I will sine your pitty on the runny kine. Seriously.

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/103 "2013-04-23T17:43:22Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Sorry **UC** , but I loathe that movie with a passion I can’t adequately convey.

No apology necessary - yours is the objectively correct reaction!

I also like _Con Air_, _Volcano_, _Dante’s Peak_, and I \*\*own \*\*_The Fifth Element_.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/104 "2013-04-23T18:06:50Z")

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> [@Indyellen](#):
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> I’ll take your **Dante’s Peak** and raise you a **Volcano**. Easily two to three times better, IMO. Downtown LA? La Brea Tar Pits? Tommy Lee Jones? Anne Heche? Classic.

I saw and enjoyed **Volcano** , probably more than once. But none of the details or images really stayed with me, unlike with **Dante’s Peak**.

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**Author:** ![Jumpbass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jumpbass/32/147_2.png) [@Jumpbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jumpbass)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/105 "2013-04-23T18:32:20Z")

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I rather like Streets Of Fire. It’s basically a long music video. The acting is over-stylized and the visual aspect is very dated, but I like it for some odd reason.

I not only own the DVD, but I also have the soundtrack CD. The Blasters, Ry Cooder, The Fixx and a band put together by Jim Steinman, the guy who wrote for Meatloaf.

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**Author:** ![psiekier](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psiekier/32/116_2.png) [@psiekier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psiekier)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/106 "2013-04-23T18:52:08Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Twister. We have cows.

We went to see the _[Tornado Alley](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1852955/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)_ documentary at the Fort Worth Museum’s IMAX last weekend.

[del]Hudson[/del] Bill Paxton narrates.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Krull. Mainly because I watch it with my 11 year old grandson. I wince at the Cyclops’s makeup everytime.

This is a bad movie, and I hate it. It came out with all those other low-budget sci-fi/action movies in the 80’s like _[Treasure of the Four Crowns](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084781/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)_, _[Megaforce](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084316/?ref_=sr_1)_ (props to **Czarcasm** for mentioning a movie featuring rocket-launching motorcycles that can fly!), and _[Metalstorm: The Destruction of Jared-Syn](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085935/?ref_=sr_1)_.

What makes Krull so egregious is that every time HBO or Cinemax would let cable subscribers know they were getting a free week of premium programming to tantalize them, Krull would be on four times a day for the entire week.

How is that suppose to win new subscribers?!?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Gasp! Buckaroo Banzai is not a bad movie! Turn in your Blue Blazer Irregulars badge! (Okay, maybe it is, but I can’t get enough of Lithgow’s performance in that.)

Sometimes, when we’re in the car and one of the kids (usually Alex) asks me where we’re going, I’ll shout, “Planet 10!”

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Hudson Hawk

Now, see, I _love_ this movie. Could watch it every time it comes on. It reminds me very much of a live-action _[Lupin III and the Castle of Cagliostro](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079833/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4)_. I bet they had a lot of fun making it.

> [@phreesh](#):
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> Big Trouble in Little China is a ludicrous movie, but I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it.

Times like these, I always remember what Jack Burton used to say. This is _another_ movie that I could watch every time it comes on. Alex and I watched it just last week, as a matter of fact!

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I’ll see your _Under Siege_ and raise you _Commando_.

I love _Commando_, too!

A recent episode of _[Regular Show](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1710308/?ref_=sr_1)_ featured a character (deliberately) very much like David Patrick Kelly’s character Luther (“Warriors, come out to play-ay!”) from _[The Warriors](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080120/)_; he _also_ played Sully in _Commando_. If you need a whiny, sleazy shrimp of a man, it would have been hard to beat him until Steve Buscemi would be old enough for the role.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Xanadu.

Michael Beck said that _The Warriors_ launched his career, and _Xanadu_ ended it; poor guy was in _Megaforce_, too! As a big ELO fan, though, I can’t find too many faults with it.

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In [threads like these](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16098793&posted=1#post16098793), I always mention [_ **Robot Jox** _](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102800/). I still have and watch it on VHS. I may get over my affliction after _[Pacfic Rim](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-ZcqwvQbas&feature=youtube_gdata_player)_ comes out on DVD/Blu-Ray.

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**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/107 "2013-04-23T19:05:00Z")

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I don’t know what criteria we are using to determine ‘bad movies’ because some of the ones listed here are some of my favorite movies (Twister, Star Wars), but one I haven’t seen mentioned, and one I can’t help but watch anytime it’s on, is a Vince Vaughn movie called dodgeball.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/108 "2013-04-23T19:10:12Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Hudson Hawk  
> Megaforce  
> _**Casino Royale(the original)**_

If you’re talking about [this one](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_%28Climax!%29), I have no quarrel with your list.

If, however, you refer to the 1967 masterpiece with David Niven, then it evidently needs to be said again: _This is a_\* good\*\* film, and inarguably the only James Bond film worth watching.\*

Apparently you agree with me that it’s worth watching (hence your post), which mitigates any distress I may be feeling towards you upon having read your contribution.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/109 "2013-04-23T19:25:30Z")

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I just remembered _The Arrival_ with Charlie Sheen. Fun Sci-Fi!

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/110 "2013-04-23T19:50:39Z")

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> [@phreesh](#):
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> Big Trouble in Little China is a ludicrous movie, but I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it.

It’s INTENTIONALLY ludicrous, so you can love it without shame. I do.

> [@blondebear](#):
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> Howard The Duck.

Stand tall when you say that, my friend. HTD is nowhere near as bad as most think, you just have to roll with the crazy. The diner scene alone makes it worth watching, but it also has scantily-dressed-and-young Lea Thompson.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/111 "2013-04-23T20:38:26Z")

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> [@Yorikke](#):
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> I just remembered _The Arrival_ with Charlie Sheen. Fun Sci-Fi!

Yes, but the topic is films that are enjoyed even though they are bad. The Arrival was a good film.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/112 "2013-04-23T20:50:12Z")

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> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#):
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> \<snip\>I also like _Con Air_, _Volcano_, _Dante’s Peak_, and I \*\*own \*\*_The Fifth Element_.

Pffft ! I _ **own** _ all of them 😃

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/113 "2013-04-23T21:01:49Z")

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I’m all in with Independence Day, Roadhouse - watch whenever I see them cruise by on a rainy day. I also love Robin Hood with Kevin Costner - delightfully bad with humor.

Current favorite (I actually got the DVD) is Drive Angry with Nick Cage. Look at it as kind of a violence parody. Much as Airplane, Galaxy Quest, and Naked Gun took on their “serious” predecessors.

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**Author:** ![Willcross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b2d939/32.png) [@Willcross](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Willcross)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/114 "2013-04-24T08:52:48Z")

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Vice Versa with Fred Savage and Judge Reinhold!

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/115 "2013-04-24T16:22:59Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Yes, but the topic is films that are enjoyed even though they are bad. The Arrival was a good film.

It was decent, but we’ve also had people mention _Boogie Nights_ and _Big Trouble in Little China_, and surely other truly great films.

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/116 "2013-04-24T17:12:31Z")

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I have been debating on whether or not I should admit this in public.

My foolish side has obviously conquered any sense of embarassment I may feel so just I’ll come out with it - I love Iron Eagle.

There. I’ll be here for another couple of hours should you feel like pointing at me and laughing.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/117 "2013-04-24T20:06:27Z")

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> [@Willcross](#):
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> Vice Versa with Fred Savage and Judge Reinhold!

She’s worried about your UNIT Dad.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/118 "2013-04-24T20:12:29Z")

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> [@Missy2U](#):
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> I have been debating on whether or not I should admit this in public.
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> My foolish side has obviously conquered any sense of embarassment I may feel so just I’ll come out with it - I love Iron Eagle.
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> There. I’ll be here for another couple of hours should you feel like pointing at me and laughing.

Pointing… hahaha, uh, wait, I like that one too.

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**Author:** ![Weaver\_of\_Nightmares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@Weaver\_of\_Nightmares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weaver_of_Nightmares)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/119 "2013-04-24T20:57:38Z")

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_Con Air_. I watch it every time it comes on, and I still don’t know why. I don’t even like Nicolas Cage, but I adore this movie.

_Commando_.

_Van Helsing_, which is mess with its CGI, and I still wonder what Kate Beckinsale was doing in it other than being female (seriously, what was her role supposed to be? Because she did very little). I still love it, even with the hammy Dracula (that’s what I love about this version!).

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-know-are-bad-but-still-watch-enjoy/656139/120 "2013-04-24T21:07:33Z")

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Oh, man. So many movies, and so many that people have already mentioned. Add my love to the list for _Big Trouble in Little China_, _Buckroo Banzai_, _Roadhouse_, _Ice Planet_ and I’ll raise you _[World Gone Wild](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096465/)_ and _[Night of the Comet](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087799/?ref_=sr_1)_.

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