# Movies You Once Liked That You Now Think Are Awful

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 5, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936 "2014-03-05T16:55:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/62 "2014-03-06T22:03:23Z")

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> [@Roundabout](#):
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> I’d have to agree that the Donner Cut is better in a lot of ways. It’s just a shame that he never got to complete it. Still, there were some choices he made in II that I’m not a fan of (i.e. Supes giving up his powers after a one night stand, etc.).

Didn’t he have to give up his powers BEFORE the one-night stand with Lois Lane?

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**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/63 "2014-03-06T22:52:46Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> Couple years back my wife confessed that she had never seen _Tron_, so we streamed it. Wowzers, it did not age well. It seemed so futuristically awesome to 12 year old me, but now I see how so many computer terms were just jammed in with no real understanding of how they actually work.

One of my favorite movies. And that’s not misremembered nostalgia talking - I saw Tron for the first time about 6 months ago, and though it is easy to pinpoint in time, that rarely bothers me about any movie. Tron is the kind of unique, whimsical movie that could have only come out of the 80’s, because big studios don’t take risks like that anymore.

[QUOTE=]  
RealityChuck]The closest is 2001, which I thought was pretty good when I first saw it, then which seemed to me like pretentious crap the next time. My most recent viewing made me realize it was somewhere in between: some excellent sections, but Kubrick painted himself into a corner at the end, knew he couldn’t come up with anything worth the building, and punted.  
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Could not disagree harder. 2001 has one of the greatest endings in film history, if not _the_ greatest.

As for my pick, I’m one of the many people who will admit to liking The Phantom Menace at first watch. By the time it was out on DVD, I’d come to my senses. In my defense, I was 14 at the time.

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**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/64 "2014-03-06T23:43:23Z")

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> [@Indyellen](#):
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> Sometimes it’s the soundtrack, not the movie. I still enjoy the story of _Ladyhawke_, but the soundtrack? Oh, such over synthesized drek!

DH and I recently watched **Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid** for the first time since we were probably teens, and WOW is the soundtrack bad. The movie help up pretty well (and with William Goldman doing the screenplay, it better!), but that soundtrack. Worst part was definitely “Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head” during the bicycle scene. Cheesy-bad, made-for-low-budget-tv music.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/65 "2014-03-06T23:54:03Z")

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**Every Which Way But Loose** and/or **Any Which Way You Can**.

I watched one of them a little while ago, and it surprised me how much of the movie didn’t involve Clyde the orangutan – the orangutan is the only reason to watch the bloody movie in the first place!

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/66 "2014-03-06T23:55:16Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> I was in college when _The Lost Boys_ came out. One of my friends commented, “If I had seen it when I was 16, I would have thought it was the greatest movie ever made.”

It came out when I was 14, and my best friend and I completely obsessed over it. There’s probably still a cassette of the soundtrack in my attic somewhere, and possibly one of the earrings we made ourselves to mimic Jason Patric’s. I haven’t watched it as an adult, but I think I would still enjoy it, even being aware of its weaknesses.

Speaking of weaknesses, Star Wars, Episode IV is objectively a much lower quality film than all my childhood memories make it out to be. But I still love it, even when I have to pretend not to notice Carrie Fisher’s accent variations and such.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/67 "2014-03-07T00:38:23Z")

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The only film I can think of that fits the criteria is the _Babes in Toyland_ movie starring Drew Barrymore. I couldn’t even make it through the first 10 minutes when I went to watch it on YouTube in anticipation of the Nostalgia Critic review. But, as a kid I watched it multiple times–something I rarely do with movies.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/68 "2014-03-07T02:02:47Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> The Great Outdoors. Not sure why I loved it then.
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> And I was going to say Porky’s but then I remembered having the idea in high school that it really wasn’t a very good movie.

But it is redeemed the scene in the principle’s office where they are trying to decide what to do about the penis through the hole of the girl’s shower. That alone was worth the price of admission.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/69 "2014-03-07T04:08:46Z")

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> [@randompattern](#):
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> Independence Day. How many times does the General say something was “completely destroyed” in that movie?

What always bothered me was the whole eyeroll disbelief thing aimed towards teh Randy Quaid character every time he mentions being abducted by aliens _even after_ the giant space ships are hovering over the major cities. [and especially when they are asking for experienced pilots at the end] Dudes, if there are aliens hovering over Washington and LA, and you tell me that you were abducted by aliens 15 years back, I am probably going to believe you.

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**Author:** ![Roundabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dec6dc/32.png) [@Roundabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roundabout)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/70 "2014-03-07T04:18:18Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> Didn’t he have to give up his powers BEFORE the one-night stand with Lois Lane?

In Richard Lester’s cut, yes. It’s reversed in Donner’s.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/71 "2014-03-07T06:29:03Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> I _adore_ Alan Parsons, but I have to agree with you after listening to part of the soundtrack recently after not having heard it for many years.
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> Actually, it’s not that I think it’s horrible: I like it. But it doesn’t go with the movie _at all._ It sounds like it would be a perfect fit for a mid '90s Japanese RPG, though (something like “Lunar: The Silver Star”).

> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Might have to pay off a bunch of people who have contracts to have their music in the film. The exposure is part of the compensation, so they would have to be bought off. If it is Alan Parsons, as indicated by someone above, he might be stinking rich enough to not be buyable.

According to IMDB, the soundtrack composer for LadyHawke is a guy named [Andrew Powell](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0694010/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr5), who (according to Wikipedia) did work as part of the Alan Parsons Group on all but one of their albums. Kinda wondering what prompted the studio/director/producer whoever makes that decision to hire him for the movie. Total mismatch. They should have gotten a group that performs actual [medieval music](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_pg7Utpgg).

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/72 "2014-03-07T06:39:45Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Kinda wondering what prompted the studio/director/producer whoever makes that decision to hire him for the movie.

Director Richard Donner. He’s the guy who came up with the “Can You Read My Mind” sequence in _Superman_. He has very strange taste in music.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4bbf92/32.png) [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Hamsandwich)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/73 "2014-03-07T08:23:25Z")

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[QUOTE=salinqmind;17169721Could not disagree harder. 2001 has one of the greatest endings in film history, if not the greatest.  
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I agree. Truthfully, did you understand the ending when you first watched it or derive it years later?

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4bbf92/32.png) [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Hamsandwich)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/74 "2014-03-07T08:26:47Z")

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Sorry about the quote snafu.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_V](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Blue\_V](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_V)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/75 "2014-03-07T08:42:42Z")

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Hot Shots! and Hot Shots! Part Deux . Loved it in college but it feels so silly now.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/76 "2014-03-07T10:22:43Z")

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Willow. I loved it when I was younger. Watched it about a year ago and oh hell was I bored. Val Kilmer running around half naked was still good, but the rest just sucked.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/77 "2014-03-07T12:19:49Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I had watched Stripes for the first time in long time about a month ago(and in fact had meant to start a thread on it). I liked it but the jokes really are spread out. It is not a laugh a minute comedy. Also the politics of it are very dated (we invaded another country, killed people and came back heroes because they’re Russian so F them) and I honestly didn’t remember that it had so much gun play in the second half. The whole movie after they graduate is basically Stripes 2, the less funny Sequel.

But it’s all “A-Team” style fighting - there are bullets and tanks and rockets and flamethrowers, yet no one ever seems to get shot or killed.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/78 "2014-03-07T12:56:13Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> But it is redeemed the scene in the **principle** ’s office.

Princi **pal**. Your school’s **principal** is your **pal**.

A **principle** is “a fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning.”

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/79 "2014-03-07T15:41:47Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> According to IMDB, the soundtrack composer for LadyHawke is a guy named [Andrew Powell](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0694010/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr5), who (according to Wikipedia) did work as part of the Alan Parsons Group on all but one of their albums.

Yep, Parsons produced, Powell composed. That was a very common collaboration in those days–Alan didn’t actually get into performing (much) with the APP until many years later. I was on an Alan Parsons fan mailing list a few years after the movie came out and they talked a lot about that soundtrack. Everybody thought it was fantastic (of course they would, being fans and all).

I wonder how many of them still do. I’m as big a fan of Parsons and his work as I ever was, but even I have to say that soundtrack was badly matched to the movie.

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-liked-that-you-now-think-are-awful/682936/80 "2014-03-07T17:17:01Z")

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Krull and Beastmaster.

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**Author:** ![Mavis\_Topholese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Mavis\_Topholese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mavis_Topholese)\
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It’s my understanding that **What’s Up Tiger Lily** was originally supposed to be an hour-long TV special, but was taken out of Woody’s hands by the producer, who added in extra, not very funny footage and completely incongruous Lovin’ Spoonful musical numbers. As a finished product it’s not nearly as funny as it was the first time we saw it, but when the movie’s firing on all cylinders, it’s pretty dang funny.

When John Woo’s **The Killer** first showed up over here, it blew me through the back wall of the theater in a seemingly nonstop blaze of gunfire and melodrama. Watched it again recently; the action sequences aren’t as innovative or as exciting any more (of course, people have been using Woo as a template for this kinda thing for 20 years) and the stuff between the action scenes is like watching paint dry. Ditto **The Heroic Trio** - revolutionary at the time, clunky and much less interesting now.

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