# Movies you once loved, but now you know they sucked **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2005, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146 "2005-03-18T15:59:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/61 "2005-03-20T00:15:17Z")
> [@Promethea](#): > > … > I think the scene is included as yet another excuse to make Kate Capshaw squirm and make faces. In addition to being a borderline racist movie, it’s also pretty misogynistic throughout. This is how I’ve always read that scene, it is just supposed to be a gross-out, with perhaps a little knock at the decadent rich, who in this case happen to be Indian. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/62 "2005-03-20T07:04:51Z")
**Highlander**. Not the sequals - nobody ever liked those; the first one. I loved it when it came oyut, but after seeing it again a few years ago… The premise is terrific, and both Connery and Clancy Brown seem to be having a fun time. The direction, however, is shallow and overly showy, the dalogue is insipid, and the Queen soundtrack dated itself withing about a month and a half (and let’s face it - their 80’s stuff was never really their best). As for Christopher Lambert’s performance - to say the man can’t act his way out of a wet paper bag is really asking too much from him, but I really think that when he memorized his English lines phonetically, he should have had someone tell him what they actually meant. Though I have to say, there’s quite some comedy value in watching a cross-eyed French fashion model trying to cut a Scots accent, especially when sharing the scene with actual Scots. They _can_ be only one… but maybe there shouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Large\_Marge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/50afbb/32.png) [@Large\_Marge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Large_Marge)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/63 "2005-03-20T07:17:29Z")
**St. Elmo’s Fire** and **Footloose** What was I thinking? ---
**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/64 "2005-03-20T07:25:08Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Laura Dern is still a major object of my lust, however. Then neurologically, you are functioning normally, and that’s what’s most important. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/65 "2005-03-20T08:11:24Z")
> [@Glory](#): > > Labyrinth. > > I got the DVD for Christmas and was so excited to watch it. I was like, whoa, this is a LOT more muppets than I remember. My complaint is that there was a lot more David Bowie bulge in Hoggle’s face than I remembered. I must have repressed that. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/66 "2005-03-20T13:25:45Z")
> [@Cheez\_Whia](#): > > Billy Jack Ooo, good one! I second that. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/67 "2005-03-20T13:46:48Z")
> [@Cheez\_Whia](#): > > Billy Jack I don’t remember _Billy Jack_, but I did see _The Trial of Billy Jack_ when I was a kid. Coincidentally, I was cleaning out a room yesterday and I found a book called _The 50 Worst Movies of All Time_ (1979), and they listed _The Trial of Billy Jack_. I _did_ see that one when I was a kid. Blew me away. Awesome. Billy Jack kicked arse! Wonderful violence for a pre-teen! And the little kid with one arm getting blown away, and another little kid being shot by the National Guard! Oh, my god! You killed Kids! You _bastards!_ I vaguely remember renting _The Trial of Billy Jack_ years and years ago. Maybe back in the late-'80s. What a pretentious pile of crap! How could I ever have liked this film? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/68 "2005-03-20T15:54:29Z")
> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#): > > This is how I’ve always read that scene, it is just supposed to be a gross-out, with perhaps a little knock at the decadent rich, who in this case happen to be Indian. Exactly. Seems to me that to try to explain it away with some deeper meaning is to become an apologist for it. There needs to be little reason to justify gross-out scenes in the middle of a gross-out movie. The palace was trying to put its best dignitary face on a diplomatic occasion. The meal served was not “just a little off.” It was full-on weird, with a side of horrifying. And are we really to believe that the kitchen was fresh out of mulligatawny soup and naan? Clearly Willie and Short Round were distressed by the offerings. The kitchen, serving a diplomatic dinner, couldn’t whip up some saag? Even if the only meat available was monkey brains, they couldn’t have mixed it up in a tasty korma? I suppose a dish of baby snake vindaloo or beetle tika masala wouldn’t have moved the story along quite as well. No, I don’t buy the thuggee explanation. I’m going for the Hollywood explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/69 "2005-03-20T22:39:08Z")
The worst thing about _Temple Of Doom_ is its arrogant and lazy contempt for continuity. In _Raiders_, set after _Temple_, Indy is wearily sceptical of anything mystical or religious - a fairly hard attitude to sustain after all the magical shenanigans he endures in _Temple_, one would have thought. The fight on the rope, bridge, too: as he’s being menaced by two sword-wielding thugs, Indy gives a “haven’t we been here before?” smirk and reaches for his empty holster. No, actually, you haven’t been here before: you don’t get to casually shoot a native swordsman until the first film, set a couple of years later. Pure shoddy laziness. ---
**Author:** ![Marsie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Marsie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marsie)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/70 "2005-03-20T23:12:39Z")
“You Light Up My Life” with Didi Conn. Caught that on cable a few months ago…back in the 70’s I thought it was the coolest movie ever. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/71 "2005-03-21T01:23:45Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > … > > The fight on the rope, bridge, too: as he’s being menaced by two sword-wielding thugs, Indy gives a “haven’t we been here before?” smirk and reaches for his empty holster. No, actually, you haven’t been here before: you don’t get to casually shoot a native swordsman until the first film, set a couple of years later. Pure shoddy laziness. Well, to play Devil’s advocate (Spielberg _is_ the Devil, right?) it is possible that Indy had been in such a situation before but we haven’t seen it. My main problem with _Temple of Doom_ is the heart-ripping-out scene…another pointless and this time gratuitously violent gross-out scene, and completly implausible as well, unless you assume the ceremony uses stage conjuring tricks. Sorry to hijack the thread, this movie doesn’t answer the OP because I never thought much of it. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/72 "2005-03-21T01:31:20Z")
The House on Haunted Hill, with Vincent Price. Scared me so bad when I was a kid that I nearly soiled me shorts. Saw it again about 20 years later and it sucked sooooo bad… ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/73 "2005-03-21T01:36:13Z")
I’m going to go with **E.T.** First time around: charming, magical, even a little scary in spots Second time around: sugar-coated dreck Also a couple of classic horror movies: **Dracula** (the Bela Lugosi version) and **The Wolf Man** (Lon Chaney, Jr.) both scared the bejeesus out of me when I was a wee spoke-let. But watching them as an adult I see clunky dialogue, primitive effects, and Dracula’s dungeon infested with…opossums? That can’t be right! ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/74 "2005-03-21T01:44:05Z")
An no, you’re all wrong. Thw _worst_ thing about **Temple of Doom** is Kate Capshaw’s screechy over-acting. ---
**Author:** ![Mirror\_Image\_egamI\_rorriM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mirror\_Image\_egamI\_rorriM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mirror_Image_egamI_rorriM)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/75 "2005-03-21T04:41:53Z")
**Temple of Doom** : What was with the little Asian kid? That’s what I want to know. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/76 "2005-03-21T05:23:46Z")
I think that Asian kid is also in Goonies. Maybe Spielberg has a thing for them. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Abe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f1d935/32.png) [@Abe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/77 "2005-03-21T07:21:22Z")
> [@raz](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally Posted by **davmilasav** _ > > Yeah but I bet you noticed old Dave’s painted-on pants a lot more this time. > > You totally read my mind! I loved **Labyrinth** as a kid and I rented it a while back. Hooo boy, good thing I was too young to realize exactly what I was seeing. I could have been scarred for life. What is the deal with Bowie’s pants? ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/78 "2005-03-21T08:22:17Z")
I’ll second **Star Wars**. Boring as hell. Quite a few movies I thought were classics in my youth have not held up. I rented **The Last Dragon** (Remember Bruce Leroy and the villain Sho’ Nuff?) and **Kentucky Fried Movie** when I first got a DVD player, and found I could sit through neither. **Purple Rain** doesn’t age well. For some reason, I thought **The Cook, The Thief, His Wife And Her Lover** and **The Rapture** were great antidotes to Hollywood blockbusters when they came out, but after re-watching them I found them lame. ---
**Author:** ![Coil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Coil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coil)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/79 "2005-03-21T13:51:46Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > What? _Logan’s Run_ sucked? But… But… You can see Jenny Agutter naked in it! 😃 Another Couplings reference eh 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146/80 "2005-03-21T13:59:04Z")
> [@Coil](#): > > Another Couplings reference eh 😉 I can really relate to Jeff. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-once-loved-but-now-you-know-they-sucked/295146.md?page=5)