# Movies you've seen recently (Part 2)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [August 27, 2024, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288 "2024-08-27T05:10:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
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> [@MortSahlFan](#):
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> Too many people talking and too many phones going off.. I’ll never do that again,

You need someone to have recorded it from different microphones, and piece it together, in order to understand it.

> [@Sitnam](#):
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> **Where Eagles Dare** … it’s two and a half hour run time could have been cut by half

I agree but I think the cut parts should be the extended escape from the _Schloß Adler_ where they manage to kill half the German army with a couple machine guns and pluck.

But I love the whole “no one is who they appear” bit that was in a lot of Allistar MacClean movies, like _Breakheart Pass_ and to some extend _Guns of Navarone_ and _Ice Station Zebra_.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
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That’s why I say the book may be better. It was perhaps too cerebral for a Clint Eastwood action film. Even when the double agents are revealed I don’t think Clint understands or cares, his character sure didn’t.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/4646 "2026-02-12T12:50:32Z")

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> **Hamnet** Every year, there are eagerly anticipated movies that were darlings of the festival circuit and come with predictions of Oscars and other awards, only to fall flat with a dull thud. This is NOT one of those movies. Chloé Zhao delivers a beautifully realized story of Shakespeare and his wife (really, it’s a story about his wife). Jessie Buckley and Paul Mescal deliver central performances that draw you into a tale of love, heartbreak, and redemption. The staging and cinematography is worth the viewing experience by itself (and, in the final scene I realized how brilliant and necessary to the story the costuming was). It’s probably not for those who love to nitpick historical accuracy, though frankly very little is known of Shakespeare’s private life, so the artistic license taken is probably allowable. For others I can’t recommend this film highly enough.

I just saw this and fully agree with this well written review. It’s up for Oscars for Best Picture, Chloe Zhao for Best Director, and Jessie Buckley for Best Actress, and deserves all three. It’s probably up for a bunch of lesser Oscars, too. Unfortunately Paul Mescal didn’t get a nomination. Very moving and highly recommended.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/4647 "2026-02-12T16:18:05Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> [_Hamnet_ is] up for Oscars for Best Picture, Chloe Zhao for Best Director, and Jessie Buckley for Best Actress, and deserves all three. It’s probably up for a bunch of lesser Oscars, too.

Yes, it’s also up for Casting, Production Design, Costume Design, Music, and Writing.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/4648 "2026-02-12T16:28:59Z")

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Casting, Costume Design, and Music are gimmes.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/4649 "2026-02-12T16:34:05Z")

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**Greenland Migration** (2026). This is the sequel to _Greenland_ (2020). I quite enjoyed the original because it was unexpectedly original, with good special effects. The sequel isn’t bad, but disappointing. The story in the original is about a family trying to make their way to safety as a large fragmented comet heads toward the earth. On their travels, pretty much everything bad that could possibly happen to them does happen.

The sequel picks up five years later, after most of the earth has been destroyed, when they embark on yet another set of travels to try to find a hospitable place to live. And sure enough, everything bad that could possibly happen to them does happen! I guess it completes the story but most of it is kind of an unimaginative rehash of the original.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/4650 "2026-02-12T16:49:48Z")

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> It’s probably not for those who love to nitpick historical accuracy, though frankly very little is known of Shakespeare’s private life, so the artistic license taken is probably allowable. For others I can’t recommend this film highly enough.

A Theory that Shakespeare was a nom de plume for Sir Francis Bacon (1561–1626) was popular in the 80’s. It was discussed and ultimately dismissed in my College Literature I class.  
It was [scientific details in the Shakespeare plays t](https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/shakespeares-remarkable-scientific-accuracy)hat drew attention towards Bacon.

They were contemporaries. Shakespeare estimated dates are 23 April 1564 [b] - 23 April 1616).

**I’m curious if Shakespeare’s interest in Science and Medicine is shown as an interest of study in the Hamnet film.**

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
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That’s not the “historical accuracy” in question. It’s just that little is known of Shakespeare’s private life, so a lot of stuff had to be imagined. I was surprised to learn that Shakespeare really did have two daughters and a son named Hamnet, and that Hamnet died at the age of 11 of a cause that isn’t recorded. In the movie, Hamnet dies of “pestilence” which is probably meant to imply the bubonic plague, of which there were five major outbreaks in Shakespeare’s time (six if you count the one the year he was born).

Probably the biggest fiction in _Hamnet_ was the idea of a strong connection between the play _Hamlet_ and the death of Shakespeare’s son. While there may have been incidental connections exploring the theme of loss and grief, it’s generally accepted that the _Hamlet_ story is derived from old folklore, most notably the 9th century Scandinavian folk tale of Amleth.

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At the beginning of Hamnet, a title card informs us that at the time, Hamlet and Hamnet were the same name. Se even if the Hamlet _story_ is based on folklore, there’s almost certainly some connection there (why else did he use that name?).

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/4653 "2026-02-12T17:47:01Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> While there may have been incidental connections exploring the theme of loss and grief,

Yeah. While I thought it was an excellent film, the big emotional catharsis – that Hamlet somehow related to loss and grief, and provided closure for Will and Agnes – seemed really a stretch.

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/4654 "2026-02-12T17:59:54Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> At the beginning of Hamnet, a title card informs us that at the time, Hamlet and Hamnet were the same name. Se even if the Hamlet _story_ is based on folklore, there’s almost certainly some connection there (why else did he use that name?).

Yes, for the time, _Hamnet_ and _Hamlet_ were identical (either Shakespeare himself or his publishers spelled his last name half a dozen different ways). And it turns out that “Agnes” and “Anne” were also considered interchangeable in Elizabethan times, and the writers chose to use “Agnes Hathaway” rather than “Anne” because “Agnes” was the way the name was recorded in some official document, somebody’s will, I think.

But note also the similarity between “Amleth” and “Hamlet”. I think it’s fair to say that the play contains elements reflective of Shakespeare’s emotions at the time of the loss of his son, but the story is really about something else entirely.

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/4655 "2026-02-12T18:04:43Z")

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The story, yes, but the idea in the novel and movie that he was dealing with the loss in writing the play is at least plausible. (And, BTW, the movie Hamnet reminds me of the earlier movie Shakespeare in Love, in that both imagine how events in his life might have led to his writing these plays.)

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/4656 "2026-02-12T18:15:24Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> And it turns out that “Agnes” and “Anne” were also considered interchangeable in Elizabethan times, and the writers chose to use “Agnes Hathaway” rather than “Anne” because “Agnes” was the way the name was recorded in some official document, somebody’s will, I think.

Yes, her father’s will lists her as “Agnes”.  
Did anyone else hear her name pronounced in the film, with the “gn” as in “lasagna”? So, something like “Añez”?

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Casting, Costume Design, and Music are gimmes.

To _win_!? No they’re not. **Sinners** is the odds on favorite to win Casting and Music by a _huge_ amount, and **Frankenstein** is the overwhelming choice for Costume.

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Sorry. That was very un-Doper-like of me. I haven’t seen the other movies.

I just really like _Hamnet_.

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> the writers chose to use “Agnes Hathaway” rather than “Anne” because “Agnes” was the way the name was recorded in some official document, somebody’s will, I think

Or because it may decrease the number of viewers like me who find themselves thinking, “Why didn’t they have Anne Hathaway play Anne Hathaway?”.

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Did anyone else hear her name pronounced in the film, with the “gn” as in “lasagna”? So, something like “Añez”?

Yes, it definitely was, and it confused me!

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/4661 "2026-02-12T21:24:31Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I think it’s fair to say that the play contains elements reflective of Shakespeare’s emotions at the time of the loss of his son

Of all the unlikely precursors, it was the 2018 series 3 finale of the Ben Elton parody-comedy _Upstart Crow_ (starring comedian David Mitchell as Shakespeare) that explored this aspect of Shakespeare’s life and work some years back.

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The Passenger (2023). A Blumhouse in which a fast food worker guns down all of his co-workers but one, and then takes that last one not as a hostage, but as a sort of crazed improvement project. One of those that I won’t recommend because of the strange plotline, but which we enjoyed quite a bit.

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Watched Harold & Maude last night, in honor of the passing of Bud Cort. Not a particularly good movie, but quirky and interesting enough for a single watch. Way too much Cat Stevens.

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