# Movies you've seen recently (Part 2)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [August 27, 2024, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288 "2024-08-27T05:10:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
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_The Magnificent Seven_ 1960 Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Eli Wallach, and Charles Bronson.

I finally watched the entire movie. I’d seen bits and pieces channel surfing. Cable tv used to air it frequently.

It lives up to its reputation. Very enjoyable and well made.

Eli Wallach, a Jewish Stage Actor from New York is so convincing as a Mexican bandito. His role as Tuco in _The Good, the Bad and the Ugly_ is equally as good as Calvera in _The Magnificent Seven_. I remember reading Eli and his wife Anne Jackson loved performing on stage. They often costarred together in plays.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> _he Magnificent Seven_ 1960 Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Eli Wallach, and Charles Bronson.
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> I finally watched the entire movie. I’d seen bits and pieces channel surfing. Cable tv used to air it frequently.
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> It lives up to its reputation. Very enjoyable and well made.

I love it, too (especially for the Elmer Bernstein score, which Marlboro cigarettes used for their TV commercials)

But I have to admit that I like the original, Akira Kurosawa’s _The Seven Samurai_ better (It was called “The Magnificent Seven” for its original US release, which is undoubtedly where the Western got its title). Longer and more nuanced – they combined two of the roles for Horst Bucholz’ part in TM7. Well worth a watch.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/703 "2024-11-26T20:25:57Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> **Miracle on 34th St.** (1947)
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> This is number two or three on my all-time favorites list.

Great film.

> [@aceplace57](#):
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> _The Magnificent Seven_ 1960 Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Eli Wallach, and Charles Bronson.

One of the best adventure/westerns ever.

> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> But I have to admit that I like the original, Akira Kurosawa’s _The Seven Samurai_ better

It is great in its own way, but a bit harder for Americans to relate to.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/704 "2024-11-26T21:08:35Z")

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I submit that the Samurai/Western/Gangster recycling machine is always viable.

Japanese movies are surprisingly accessible on their own, and easily remade. Even as weird as _Realm of the Senses._ They could have ended _9-1/2 Weeks_ with Mickey Rourke’s dick in Kim Bassinger’s purse and the audience would have bought it.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/705 "2024-11-26T23:06:46Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> _The Magnificent Seven_ 1960 Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Eli Wallach, and Charles Bronson.

This movie has one of my favorite scenes of all time, ever: The town people are trying to decide what to do with a dead Native American and Yul Brynner says, “Aw hell. If that’s all that’s holding things up, I’ll drive the rig.” Steve McQueen follows his example and the two risk their lives to help bury someone. Why? Just to stick it to bigoted assholes.

Truly heroic. While fictional, it’s a great example of how I’d like to live my life when put to the test.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/706 "2024-11-26T23:32:13Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> My favorite performance of his was in _Much Ado About Nothing._ The sneaky grin he had on his face when he was speaking to his men about getting Beatrix and Benedict to fall in love again just made my heart go pitter patter.

If you liked him in that role, you have to see _The Mighty Quinn._ There’s a scene near the middle where he sings a kind of cakewalk song while playing the piano. Damn, he just ignited the screen. It’s a fun movie, too. I thought the ending faceoff with the villain was a little cliched, but the story was intriguing and all the other actors were great. Robert Townsend and Sheryl Lee Ralph in particular.

It’s one of my favorite non-blockbuster movies.

> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> **Miracle on 34th St.** (1947)

You didn’t mention Natalie Wood. I loved that she wasn’t a syrupy little goody-goody. She was a really good child actor.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/707 "2024-11-26T23:42:19Z")

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I will check that movie out. I haven’t seen him. Washington is one of those guys who lights up more than anyone else(almost) when he smiles.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/708 "2024-11-27T01:47:15Z")

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Just watched Blood Fest on Prime. A fun throwaway little horror movie. Basically horror fans get invited to a huge convention. Unfortunately, the masked “psychos” and monsters turn out to all too real…

The bad guys seem to be having a ball, and it’s pretty entertaining. I found the “last girl” much more interesting and a better actor than the hero, but all in all not too shabby.

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I prefer **The Seven Samurai** to **The Magnificent Seven** overall, but the latter had this moment from Charles Bronson’s character that has always stuck with me:

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> Village Boy 2: We’re ashamed to live here. Our fathers are… cowards.
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> [_O’Reilly takes the boy over his knee and spanks him_]
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> O’Reilly: [_harshly_] Don’t you ever say that again about your fathers, because they are not cowards! You think I am brave because I carry a gun? Well, your fathers are much braver because they carry responsibility, for you, your brothers, your sisters, and your mothers. And this responsibility is like a big rock that weighs a ton. It bends and it twists them until finally it buries them under the ground. And there’s nobody says they have to do this. They do it because they love you, and because they want to. I have never had this kind of courage. Running a farm, working like a mule every day with no guarantee anything will ever come of it. This is bravery. That’s why I never even started anything like that… that’s why I never will.

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> I submit that the Samurai/Western/Gangster recycling machine is always viable.

You had _The Seven Samurai_ becoming _The Magnificent Seven_ and _Yojimbo_ becoming _A Fistful of Dollars_. But arguably the weirdest (and least familiar) was _Rashomon_ becoming _The Outrage_

I’d love to see that film. Not only does it translate the medieval Japanese drama to the 19th century West, but it has one of the weirdest casts around:

Paul Newman as the Mexican bandit Juan Carrasco (!)  
Laurence Harvey as Colonel WAkefield (the young samurai in Rashomon)  
Claire Bloom as his wife  
Edward G. Robinson as a con man (equivalent to one of the people sheltering from the storm in the Rashomon gate)  
William Shatner as a Preacher (same)  
Howard da Silva (Ben Franklin from _1776_!) as an Old Prospector (ditto)

Apparently it’s available on DVD, but I’ve never seen it. I read part of the script, though.

In its own way, it’s weirder than Kurasawa’s _The Hidden Fortress_ sorta becoming _Star Wars_

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/711 "2024-11-27T14:20:44Z")

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This thread has convinced me to watch Magnificent Seven. I shall do so soon.

1960 version, of course. Did anyone ever really check out the 2016 one? It fizzled, though I’ve never seen it.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/712 "2024-11-27T14:21:26Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> _Rashomon_ becoming _The Outrage_

Never heard of Outrage. Is it…the same story?

:enter the “depends on how you remember it” jokes:

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> 1960 version, of course. Did anyone ever really check out the 2016 one?

Don’t forget the one from 1980

> **[Battle Beyond the Stars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Beyond_the_Stars?wprov=sfti1)**
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> (after Akira Kurosawa
> Shinobu Hashimoto
> Battle Beyond the Stars is a 1980 American space opera film produced by Roger Corman, directed by Jimmy T. Murakami, and starring Richard Thomas, Robert Vaughn, George Peppard, John Saxon, Sybil Danning and Darlanne Fluegel. Intended as a futuristic "Magnificent Seven (itself a western version of Seven Samurai) in outer space", the screenplay was written by John Sayles with the score by James Horner and special effects designed by filmmaker James Camero...

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> 1960 version, of course. Did anyone ever really check out the 2016 one? It fizzled, though I’ve never seen it.

I’ve seen it; didn’t like it; they changed way too much.

Nobody mentions that **A Bug’s Life** pretty much took much of its plot from _The Seven Samurai/The Magnificent Seven_.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Nobody mentions that **A Bug’s Life** pretty much took much of its plot from _The Seven Samurai/The Magnificent Seven_.

Arguably so did **The Three Amigos**. The whole “saving the village from bandits” thing has now become a trope in its own right.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Nobody mentions that **A Bug’s Life** pretty much took much of its plot from _The Seven Samurai/The Magnificent Seven_.

When that film came out I remember many reviews mentioning that fact.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/717 "2024-11-27T19:22:35Z")

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**Bonhoeffer** (Theater) The blurb: As the world teeters on the brink of annihilation, Dietrich Bonhoeffer is swept into the epicenter of a deadly plot to assassinate Hitler. With his faith and fate at stake, Bonhoeffer must choose between upholding his moral convictions or risking it all to save millions of Jews from genocide. Will his shift from preaching peace to plotting murder alter the course of history or cost him everything?

Not recommended.

The film was both dull and a mess. Essentially a series of formative moments in young Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s life that colored his conviction that the Nazis are bad and Christians should lead the resistance. It also took the time to tell us racism is bad. I am certain the script was written in crayon.

If you liked **Oppenheimer** and **Napoleon** you may enjoy this entirely accurate and yet entirely nonsensical bullet point retelling of a persons life along with a menagerie of unrelated yet historical social and political themes for the film to sample but largely go unexplored.

I suspect the higher Rotten Tomato fan ratings are linked to this film perhaps being seen as a sly invitation for modern Christians to resist current perceived Fascism.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-youve-seen-recently-part-2/1006288/718 "2024-11-27T19:36:41Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> This thread has convinced me to watch Magnificent Seven. I shall do so soon.
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> 1960 version, of course. Did anyone ever really check out the 2016 one? It fizzled, though I’ve never seen it.

For the 2016 version, watch the showdown in the middle and the end finale so that’s 10 minutes of violence. The Original has it beat for the rest of the run time.

I still can’t decide which of the **True Grit** s are better, I like both for different reasons.

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Never heard of Outrage. Is it…the same story?

_The Outrage_ came out when I was of middle school age, and I remember the billboards for it. I think it was the cause of my first having inklings of what rape is (I didn’t see the movie, but I heard about it).

_Arthur the King_  
@wolfpup has been touting this movie for a while now, and I usually enjoy animal movies, so when I saw it On Demand I decided to watch it.

Great story. I understand why they changed the protagonist from Swedish to American (“big” star for box office), but I’m not a big Marky Mark fan. He wasn’t that bad, but he wasn’t that great. It was a decently put together movie, but there were some draggy spots for me. The dog was awesome! None of the cliched animal behaviors you’d usually see in a dog movie. Just amazing. Lots of emotional hits, but the sponsors replacing the oversized picture in their boardroom with “that” picture is the one that really got to me, for some reason.

Definitely worth a watch!

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_Interstellar_ 2014 Matthew McConaughey

I liked most of it. The last 45 minutes gets extremely chaotic. It’s science fiction but this alternative reality at the end is hard to swallow.

Matthew’s character realizes the horrific ending for humanity happens in the past and can’t be reversed. Yet some morse code sent to the second hand of a watch can miraculously allow the survivors to relocate on space stations.  
It’s a hopeful message that himanity can survive. I don’t see how the ending makes any sense. New scientific knowledge isn’t that usesful if the highly trained scientists are dead. You need a massive technological society to build those space stations.

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