# Mozart Fans, help me track down this tune, please.

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**Created:** [July 19, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mozart-fans-help-me-track-down-this-tune-please/457061 "2008-07-19T17:49:31Z")
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### Author: ![Valteron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f17d59/32.png) [@Valteron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valteron)
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There is a piece of music by Mozart that I am fond of and would like to find on Youtube or elsewhere, but I don’t know the name.

It has been sung as a popular song, and some of the words are “Child of the morning star, kissed by the hand of April, her form went dancing by.”

The tune also occurs in _Amadeus_. During the sequence when Mozart is watching burlesque versions of his music, someone begins to sing it and a little person on stage says “I’m sick of that tune”.

I heard it once as an instrumental on a radio station and it seemed to have an Italian title, that may have begun with "Che ", but I am not sure.

Can any Mozart fans out there help me?

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### Author: ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
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Moving to Cafe Society.

Colibri  
General Questions Moderator

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### Author: ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)
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_Caro Mio Ben_, not by Mozart but Giordani. Found on the Wikipedia article for Amadeus 🙂

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### Author: ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)
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I’m not sure how accurate this is, but it’s better than nothing. 🙂

[From the script of _Amadeus_](http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Amadeus.html):

> [@](#):
>
> \*SCHIKANEDER, (singing to the tune of Non piu ante):  
> In the pot, I have got a good dinner.  
> Not a sausage or stew, but a singer.  
> Not a sausage or stew but a singer.  
> Is the treat that I’ll eat for my  
> meat!
> 
> COMMENDATORE:  
> Oh shut up. I’m sick to death of  
> that tune.\*

I’ve never heard of a song by that name, so I don’t know whether or not the script identifies it correctly.

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Ahh, maybe I’ve got the wrong one, then!

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### Author: ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)
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[QUOTE=GorillaMan]  
Ahh, maybe I’ve got the wrong one, then!  
[/QUOTE]

Maybe _I’ve_ got the wrong one, then! 😃

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If perchance you know the sequence of notes, check out [Musipedia](http://www.musipedia.org/) - it allows you to search by a certain note sequence to find songs that contain it.

If you don’t know the sequence of notes, than since I am incredibly inept at naming classical pieces, I got nothing…

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### Author: ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)
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The aria is [Non piu andrai](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWTtNUZUH8U) . It was one the most popular songs in _The Marriage of Figaro_. It’s still one of Mozart’s most recognizable tunes.

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I appreciate your efforts but it is neither of those. I heard them both on Youtube.

Here is another hint. I remember that in Amadeus, in the “burlesque” scene, the camera scans the audience while they are singing that song on stage and a woman of about 25 or 30 in the audience is sitting there swaying to the music and singing along. Does that help?

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[Amazon](http://www.amazon.com/Amadeus-Complete-Original-Soundtrack-Recording/dp/B000000XBV) lists every piece of music used in the movie for the Soundtrack CD.

It’s gotta be there somewhere. Good luck! 🙂

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(decided against posting)

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Interestingly, the joke about “I’m sick of that tune” was first made by Mozart himself. _Le Nozze di Figaro_ wasn’t received too well in Vienna when it was premiered in 1786. However, it was a great success in Prague, where _Non piu andrai_ became a huge popular hit. A year later, Mozart’s _Don Giovanni_ was first performed in Prague. The character of Leporello, servant of the eponymous Don, was performed by Felice Ponziani, who had also sung the role of Figaro there in Prague in front of packed audiences the year before, and who would have encored _Non piu andrai_ countless times. Towards the end of _Don Giovanni_, there is a scene where the Don has some popular opera tunes played for him during dinner. At the third piece that is played, Leporello looks up and exclaims: “I know this music a bit too well!” The tune is _Non piu andrai_.

I still don’t know the answer, though, as that apparently isn’t the tune that the OP is looking for. I guess I’ll have to go watch _Amadeus_ again. I only saw that once, about 20 years ago.\*

\*By the way: Salieri, the poor libeled bastard, didn’t do it. Oh, and Mozart’s middle [name](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart%27s_name) was never actually Amadeus. But I digress…

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Thank you again for your efforts, friends. I still can’t find it on the listing of all the soundtracks in the ad in Amazon. I get the feeling it is part of a longer symphony or something, and hidden inside another title.

This is going to drive me crazy (I know, it’s a short drive 😃 ) until I find it. I am going to rent the movie and record the song from the TV.

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Just a hunch: It couldn’t possibly be [La ci darem la mano](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKMN1ywwuk)?

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[QUOTE=Peak Banana]  
Just a hunch: It couldn’t possibly be [La ci darem la mano](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKMN1ywwuk)?  
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Do you ever have a song that, in your mind, wants to transform into a different song? “Là ci darem” does that for me…by turning into Monty Python’s “Lumberjack Song.”

_Là ci darem la mano  
Là mi dirai di sì  
Vedi, non è lontano  
And have buttered scones for tea!_

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Yep, I know the crowd in _Amadeus_ sings “Là ci darem la mano” – the English version, translated as “give me your hand, my darling.” Example:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RTKMN1ywwuk/hqdefault.jpg "MOZART - Don Giovanni - La ci darem la mano") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKMN1ywwuk)

My guess it’s this one. Very famous duet from _Don Giovanni_, as the Don seduces peasant girl Zerlina.

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[QUOTE=Peak Banana]  
Just a hunch: It couldn’t possibly be [La ci darem la mano](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKMN1ywwuk)?  
[/QUOTE]

THAT’S IT!!! Thank you, thank you! Now I can sleep tonight! 😃

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[QUOTE=Peak Banana]  
Just a hunch: It couldn’t possibly be [La ci darem la mano](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKMN1ywwuk)?  
[/QUOTE]

I’m sick to death of that tune.

Sorry.

No I’m not.
