# MP says Planned Parenthood trying to 'get their snout back in the public trough' **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 21, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239 "2011-04-21T15:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/1 "2011-04-21T15:10:55Z")
[Story here.](http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Trost+under+fire+over+Planned+Parenthood+remarks/4653617/story.html) He also says “it has been absolute disgrace that this organization and several others like it have been receiving one penny of Canadian taxpayers’ dollars”. Fuck you, Brad Trost. You and your sexist fundie douchebag friends are what makes the rest of Canada hate Saskatchewan. I wish you would get your ass trounced in the election, but everyone’s focusing on economics right now. Hopefully this is the wake-up call the rest of Canada will heed on Election Day. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/2 "2011-04-21T15:20:32Z")
Lets be fair, here. There are a lot of reasons the rest of Canada hates Saskatchewan. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/3 "2011-04-21T15:48:24Z")
People, wake up, over 90% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortions! And PP in Canada doesn’t have to separate public funding so it can all go to abortion. Although, if you want the government to pay for an abortion it might be easier to go to a hospital or clinic where tax payers fund 100%. Canada used to have private for-profit abortion clinics but a federal ruling required the government to pay for treatment. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/4 "2011-04-21T15:58:42Z")
I heard they kidnap pregnant women and force abortions on them in order to meet their monthly quota. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/5 "2011-04-21T15:59:07Z")
Which of these is intended to be a factual statement? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/6 "2011-04-21T16:22:54Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > I heard they kidnap pregnant women and force abortions on them in order to meet their monthly quota. You heard wrong. First they kidnap the women, then get them pregnant, then force them to have abortions. Your tax looneys at work! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/7 "2011-04-21T16:41:51Z")
[PM Stephen Harper’s response.](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/21/cv-election-parenthood-042111.html) They’re not re-opening the abortion debate, but he refuses to comment on Brad Trost’s assertions. > [@](#): > > “If Planned Parenthood submits an application that falls within the government’s parameters for the G8 Muskoka Initiative, there will be funding,” Oda said. I’m not entirely sure what that means. I am sure that Trost was playing to the house at a Pro-Life convention. I agree, though, that bullshit like this doesn’t help the reputation of western provinces for being full of backward hicks. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/8 "2011-04-21T16:59:25Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > [PM Stephen Harper’s response.](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/21/cv-election-parenthood-042111.html) They’re not re-opening the abortion debate, but he refuses to comment on Brad Trost’s assertions. I’m not entirely sure what that means. I am sure that Trost was playing to the house at a Pro-Life convention. > > I agree, though, that bullshit like this doesn’t help the reputation of western provinces for being full of backward hicks. There’s just so many of these assholes around. Vellacott probably called him up and congratulated him this morning. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/9 "2011-04-21T17:00:50Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Which of these is intended to be a factual statement? I’m not sure, but I think we ought to find out. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/10 "2011-04-21T17:03:03Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Which of these is intended to be a factual statement? At least 90%. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/11 "2011-04-21T17:08:42Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I’m not entirely sure what that means. The Muskoka Initiative is a program by the Government of Canada (and the other G-8 countries) to improve maternal and child health worldwide. The Canadian International Development Agency set out a request for grant proposals that was due in January, and International Planned Parenthood (“IPP”) was one of the organizations that requested funding. The announcement of which proposals have been accepted hasn’t been released yet, but Trost claimed that, thanks to the efforts of groups like the Sask. Pro-Life Association, the Government has decided to reject their proposal, which means that IPP won’t get any money under the Muskoka Initiative. The Conservative spokesman said that there hasn’t been a decision yet on whether to accept IPP’s request for funding or not, and that if the IPP request for funding fits under the requirements it will be accepted and if it doesn’t, it won’t, just like any other organization requesting funding. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/12 "2011-04-21T17:12:47Z")
I thought only Americans (and South Americans) still had to argue about abortion. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/13 "2011-04-21T17:13:03Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > . . . Your tax looneys at work! This feeling, I - I think it’s envy of Canadians, just for being able to say that. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/14 "2011-04-21T17:31:18Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > The Conservative spokesman said that there hasn’t been a decision yet on whether to accept IPP’s request for funding or not, Similarly, KAIROS was defunded on the advice of CIDA. It certainly had nothing to do with KAIROS criticizing Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/15 "2011-04-21T17:31:42Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > You heard wrong. First they kidnap the women, then get them pregnant, then force them to have abortions. Your tax looneys at work! I need a job. Are they hiring men to impregnate the women? 'Cause that really sound like a great jobs program. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/16 "2011-04-21T17:34:19Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > [PM Stephen Harper’s response.](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/21/cv-election-parenthood-042111.html) They’re not re-opening the abortion debate, but he refuses to comment on Brad Trost’s assertions. I’m not entirely sure what that means. I am sure that Trost was playing to the house at a Pro-Life convention. > [@](#): > > “If Planned Parenthood submits an application that falls within the government’s parameters for the G8 Muskoka Initiative, there will be funding,” Oda said. However the idiot MP in question is recorded saying: > [@](#): > > Trost told the crowd that Planned Parenthood was denied funding because of grassroots support. > > “I cannot tell you specifically how we used it but those petitions were very, very useful and they were part of what we used to defund Planned Parenthood, because it has been absolute disgrace that this organization and several others like it have been receiving one penny of Canadian taxpayers’ dollars,” Trost said. Is funding for Planned Parenthood cut or not? So who is lying? Oda or Trost? It’s so hard to tell, because we’re dealing with Conservatives here. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/17 "2011-04-21T17:39:14Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I agree, though, that bullshit like this doesn’t help the reputation of western provinces for being full of backward hicks. Well, let’s be fair - it’s not _all_ the western provinces, just the Ontario border to the Rocky Mountains. The west coast itself is pretty cool. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/18 "2011-04-21T17:42:06Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I need a job. Are they hiring men to impregnate the women? 'Cause that really sound like a great jobs program. Are you socialist? All Canadians have to be socialist. (Except in Saskatchewan.) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/19 "2011-04-21T17:45:27Z")
You people up there in Canadia are so cute when you get pissed off! Does that happen, like, once a year? ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239/20 "2011-04-21T17:46:04Z")
Our local Planned Parenthood is right across the street from the library. I heard a pro-life protester tell someone going in “Those people are abortionists, not doctors. All they do is abortions.” At that point I interjected “That is a lie. They do a lot of health care for women that couldn’t otherwise afford it.” Protester: Well, 90% of what they do is abortions. Me: That is not “all.” ALL is 100%. Learn some basic math and stop telling lies. There was a rally for my local PP last week. When the people supporting them were talking, the anti-abortion protestors were very rudely screaming over them. When the antis got their say, the pro-choice crew ere politely silent. s Andy Rooney put it: I don’t kno if I’m pro-choice or pro-life. But I know I like pro-choice people better than pro-life people. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mp-says-planned-parenthood-trying-to-get-their-snout-back-in-the-public-trough/579239.md?page=2)