# Mr. Clothahump, if you will

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 31, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422 "2017-03-31T16:23:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/161 "2017-04-06T05:49:21Z")

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So there was this lifelong union employee I hated, a real liberal; this guy would twiddle his thumbs, lazed around all the time on his fat ass.

I got word he was going to have to retire. He had a worrying blood condition so due to the occasional occupational hazard at his workplace it was too unsafe for him to continue.

You know what I said when I heard the news?

“Clot? Hah, ump!” :smack:

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/162 "2017-04-06T09:15:04Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I haven’t laughed so hard at a post in a long time. **SaneBill**

Thank You.

Mr C  
Your response was pretty much what I expected - too much protesting. Although I thought there would be few BWAHAHAHAHAs which are usually part of these desperate denials.

Sorry for that punning about your username, couldn’t resist, but obviously I was wrong.  
However, a magical turtle? Now that is quite revealing. They have this hard shell protecting them all times and they can pull their heads inside ( very handy - I mean have any of you seen a turtle cry? Now you know why not ). Also, you probably feel your life is slipping away - so imagining to be a long living turtle is comforting. And magical powers on top of that, perfect.

I actually feel bad for you. Hopefully they soon build that border wall because that may be the only thing that stops you from throwing yourself into the black waters of Rio Grande. This far it have been the thought that others may loath you as a quitter and a loser - or even worse, they may pity you.

Mighty men are respected and feared. You can’t get respect so you take the second best option - as you probably always have been forced to. So in order to make you feel a little better:

Idiot, I hate you and your fascist frothing, go humping a cloth!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/163 "2017-04-06T10:29:43Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I think you’re an inherently good person who is angry because he believes RW media nonsense. That anger makes you lash out. You’re a victim. If you were just less gullible, you’d be a happier person because you’d realize the horrors around you that make you feel like there is no justice just are to a large extent not true.

It’s too bad Robin Williams is dead, otherwise we could get him to stand there and say “It’s not your fault” until **Clothahump** broke down.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/164 "2017-04-06T19:28:02Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I think you’re an inherently good person who is angry because he believes RW media nonsense. That anger makes you lash out. You’re a victim. If you were just less gullible, you’d be a happier person because you’d realize the horrors around you that make you feel like there is no justice just are to a large extent not true.

I’m going on the assumption that this is not a serious post.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/165 "2017-04-06T19:52:06Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I’m going on the assumption that this is not a serious post.

Either way, it’s unlikely to penetrate **Clot** ’s cement head.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/166 "2017-04-06T20:42:38Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I haven’t laughed so hard at a post in a long time. **SaneBill** , you are so incredibly wrong that I’m not even going to say you ain’t in the same zip code with right. You’re not even on the same planet with right.

So… even when you were young, you weren’t hopeful for your futute?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/167 "2017-04-06T20:54:20Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> So… even when you were young, you weren’t hopeful for your\*\* futute\*\*?

My bold. Awesome, if archaic, typo.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/168 "2017-04-06T21:32:26Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I’m going on the assumption that this is not a serious post.

No, I think that’s really what’s up with him. He’s so convinced we’re evil, or dupes in the cause of evil that he hates us (liberals). He thinks that Obama was literally thinking, “How can I make the US weaker on the world stage?” Because that’s what FOX News and Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh and Hannity and whoever tell him.

If I believed everything Clothy did, I’d be super pissed too.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/169 "2017-04-06T21:37:31Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> I think **SaneBill** ’s theory is a quite decent example of armchair psychology based on your posting profile.  
> I’d say that it’s actually a charitably humanizing explanation for your behavior on this board.

It was a large, steaming pile of bullshit. If you think that it was accurate in any way, then you can join SB over there on the I-don’t-got-a-clue couch.

> [@](#):
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> Rather than scoffing an making ridiculous demands for clairvoyant insights into your private life,

I wasn’t scoffing or making ridiculous demands of any kind. I was simply pointing out the massive amount of stupidity in SB’s post.

> [@](#):
>
> why not attempt to vindicate yourself by addressing the points I put to you at the start of the thread, and which I put to you way back in the original Pit thread?

I don’t need to vindicate myself in any way, shape, form or fashion. And I have answered your “points” more than once. Since you keep on asking me to answer them, I don’t know whether to conclude that you have difficulty in reading for comprehension or whether you really weren’t interested in carrying on any kind of relative conversation in the first place. Have a nice day.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/170 "2017-04-06T21:38:50Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> Thank You.
> 
> Mr C  
> Your response was pretty much what I expected - too much protesting. Although I thought there would be few BWAHAHAHAHAs which are usually part of these desperate denials.
> 
> Sorry for that punning about your username, couldn’t resist, but obviously I was wrong.  
> However, a magical turtle? Now that is quite revealing. They have this hard shell protecting them all times and they can pull their heads inside ( very handy - I mean have any of you seen a turtle cry? Now you know why not ). Also, you probably feel your life is slipping away - so imagining to be a long living turtle is comforting. And magical powers on top of that, perfect.
> 
> I actually feel bad for you. Hopefully they soon build that border wall because that may be the only thing that stops you from throwing yourself into the black waters of Rio Grande. This far it have been the thought that others may loath you as a quitter and a loser - or even worse, they may pity you.
> 
> Mighty men are respected and feared. You can’t get respect so you take the second best option - as you probably always have been forced to. So in order to make you feel a little better:
> 
> Idiot, I hate you and your fascist frothing, go humping a cloth!

SB, I say this with all sincerity and love: fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/171 "2017-04-06T22:06:41Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I wasn’t scoffing or making ridiculous demands of any kind.

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> So, since you are such an expert on me, perhaps you can explain to us all exactly how " things haven’t gone as (I) expected". Please provide full details: dates, places, people, whatever it takes to make the explanation. I’ll go make some popcorn, because this is gonna turn out highly amusing.

> [@](#):
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> I was simply pointing out the massive amount of stupidity in SB’s post.

With all the credibility of a Trump tweet.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/172 "2017-04-06T22:33:11Z")

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I honestly do not understand what Clothahump sets out of this message board if the armchair analysis upthread is so wildly off-the-mark. We are all horrible people who are horrible to him, and his ignore list is blocks-long. Why even post here?

I post here because I like the community - not everyone but most.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/173 "2017-04-07T00:41:36Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> It was a large, steaming pile of bullshit. If you think that it was accurate in any way, then you can join SB over there on the I-don’t-got-a-clue couch.

If it was wildly inaccurate then I can understand why you’d be pissed. But as an explanation for why you would behave as you do on this board, I think it wasn’t way out there or obviously mean-spirited.

> [@](#):
>
> I wasn’t scoffing or making ridiculous demands of any kind.

[QUOTE]

> [@Clothahump](#):
>
> I haven’t laughed so hard at a post in a long time. . . .  
> . . . . . .
> 
> . . . So, since you are such an expert on me, perhaps you can explain to us all exactly how " things haven’t gone as (I) expected". Please provide full details: dates, places, people, whatever it takes to make the explanation. I’ll go make some popcorn, because this is gonna turn out highly amusing.

> [@](#):
>
> And I have answered your “points” more than once. Since you keep on asking me to answer them, I don’t know whether to conclude that you have difficulty in reading for comprehension or whether you really weren’t interested in carrying on any kind of relative conversation in the first place.

I have repeatedly asked you to answer the following questions. This is the 5th time I have put them to you.

**A: Can you agree with any or all of the following suggestions made by other posters prior to you in the original Pit thread?**

1. CosmicManiac’s referencing a deranged comic-book supervillain as relationship advice was silly.
2. Using terms such as “bitch” and “broad” did not reflect well on him.
3. It was wrong of CosmicManiac to brand Helena330 an“anti-male, feminist zealot” just for  
using the term “thinking with his dick”, because that is a commonly used phrase even among men.  
\*\*  
B: Do you agree that some of the comments posted either against CosmicManiac or in support of Helena330 before you stepped into the original Pit thread were actually quite rational?

C: After being called an “anti-male, feminist zealot” with daddy issues by CosmicManiac, Helena330 gave a very gracious response. Do you agree?\*\*

Please respond.  
A simple yes or no will suffice for now.

> [@](#):
>
> Have a nice day.

Wait. Am I on the ignore list now?😕

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/174 "2017-04-07T02:52:07Z")

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[quote=“Not\_Carlson, post:173, topic:783422”]

If it was wildly inaccurate then I can understand why you’d be pissed. But as an explanation for why you would behave as you do on this board, I think it wasn’t way out there or obviously mean-spirited.

> [@](#):
>
> I have repeatedly asked you to answer the following questions. This is the 5th time I have put them to you.
> 
> **A: Can you agree with any or all of the following suggestions made by other posters prior to you in the original Pit thread?**
> 
> 1. CosmicManiac’s referencing a deranged comic-book supervillain as relationship advice was silly.
> 2. Using terms such as “bitch” and “broad” did not reflect well on him.
> 3. It was wrong of CosmicManiac to brand Helena330 an“anti-male, feminist zealot” just for  
> using the term “thinking with his dick”, because that is a commonly used phrase even among men.  
> \*\*  
> B: Do you agree that some of the comments posted either against CosmicManiac or in support of Helena330 before you stepped into the original Pit thread were actually quite rational?
> 
> C: After being called an “anti-male, feminist zealot” with daddy issues by CosmicManiac, Helena330 gave a very gracious response. Do you agree?\*\*
> 
> Please respond.  
> A simple yes or no will suffice for now.
> 
> Wait. Am I on the ignore list now?😕

Yes.

And no, you are not on the list. That’s reserved for assholes, and so far, you haven’t been an asshole. And that is quite refreshing.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/175 "2017-04-07T03:58:11Z")

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[quote=“Clothahump, post:174, topic:783422”]

> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> If it was wildly inaccurate then I can understand why you’d be pissed. But as an explanation for why you would behave as you do on this board, I think it wasn’t way out there or obviously mean-spirited.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> And no, you are not on the list. That’s reserved for assholes, and so far, you haven’t been an asshole. And that is quite refreshing.

I’d think you’d be acclimated to assholes, since you spend so much time with your head up yours.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/176 "2017-04-07T05:27:40Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Yes.

So, that’s a “Yes” to all those points?

**A: You agree, with other posters that CosmicManiac’s reference to Norman Osborn was ridiculous, that he was wrong to use terms such as “bitch” and “broad”, and that he was wrong to brand Helena330 an “anti-male, feminist zealot” for using the term “thinking with his dick”.**

Yes?

**B: You agree that some of the comments posted before you stepped into the original Pit thread were actually quite rational.**

Yes?

**C: You agree that Helena330’s response to CosmicManiac’s attack was a gracious response.**

Yes?  
Since you have called my reading comprehension into question, please humor me in my request for verification of how I should parse your “Yes”.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/177 "2017-04-07T06:22:42Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> SB, I say this with all sincerity and love: fuck off.

For a second I thought you told me to FO.

But as you have never shown any signs of sincerity or love, I suppose you didn’t. Thank you for that.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/178 "2017-04-07T06:32:04Z")

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On the remote chance I’m not on his ignore list:

Clothahump: out of curiosity, what do you consider your finest moment on this board, in terms of the time you best presented your position in a logical, fact-supported manner? A simple link will do.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/179 "2017-04-07T12:19:15Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> So, that’s a “Yes” to all those points?

You did say “a simple yes or no will suffice for now” and that’s what you got. Call that a win.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-clothahump-if-you-will/783422/180 "2017-04-07T12:52:08Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> You did say “a simple yes or no will suffice for now” and that’s what you got. Call that a win.

I’m inclined to call it a dodge, but maybe that’s just my frustration getting the better of me.  
I should have said _“a simple yes or no \*\*to each \*\*will suffice for now”_. Silly me.  
Though I would have thought that anyone giving a reasonable reading of my queries and endeavoring to provide a reasonable response would have made a clear answer to each. (I mean, geez, I even labeld them for clarity.)

I want to avoid getting another evasive “I’ve already answered you question” type response from **Clothahump**.  
4 pages and 1 week later and I still haven’t been able to get a straight answer from him regarding the three points I’ve repeatedly laid out.\*  
But yeah, I walked into this one through my poor wording.  
I hope \*\*Clothahump \*\*will be back to clarify whether his \*“Yes” \*is in response to all three of my questions above.

\*\*\* \*\*What he \*has \*admitted thus far is that he shouldn’t have made his post in the original pit thread (while still claiming his statement was correct), and that at least some of the backlash he received was justified (while still insisting that the majority of derision he receives is due to his being an “outspoken conservative”).

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