# Mr. Ebe held for years in Nevada without hearing or legal assistance. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 27, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776 "2015-02-27T16:48:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/1 "2015-02-27T16:48:13Z")
Mr Ebe was a victim of overzealous authorities. This poor fellow was held in isolation, in the state of Nevada, without benefit of a hearing, legal assistance, or even proper medical care. In fact, the only doctor to treat this poor fellow was was a botanist. Information is somewhat sketchy, but apparently Mr Ebe died after several years of imprisonment and mistreatment by the authorities. His family was never notified. Understandably Mr. Ebe refused to cooperate with authorities, even to the point of lying to the investigators. He refused to provide his name, date of birth or current address. Fingerprints were of no value as there was nothing to match them with on record. He carried no identification, no proof of citizenship or other documentation. Does this justify imprisonment and isolation? The citation is a YouTube video and Mr Ebe appears to be naked, This may be NSFW. So to be safe… [Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLIOSGVkaEU) ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/2 "2015-02-27T17:22:42Z")
Well, apparently he violated 8 U.S.C. § 1325 by entering the United States at a place other than designated by immigration officers, and failed to register as an alien as required by 8 U.S.C. § 1302 (or their predecessor statutes). Assuming his vehicle was exceeding the legal speed limits, he was also in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 758. That’s five years, baby. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/3 "2015-02-27T18:27:25Z")
186,000 Miles Per Second. **Not just a good idea, it’s the law.** ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/4 "2015-02-27T19:11:16Z")
IMO, since he lied, that means they talked to him. So deport across the fence or to S. America, or to the Mideast. Where ever he is from. Going to jail him, run him through the court system. Use a crooked Judge but just sitting on him for this long… We are shamed with one Gitmo, we don’t need more. IMO 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/5 "2015-02-27T20:59:11Z")
If you don’t know where he’s from, and he won’t tell you, how do you deport him? ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/6 "2015-02-27T21:13:55Z")
Interesting. A while back I asked if anyone had been sentenced to death and executed, in reasonably modern civilian criminal court, without having a confirmed identity. (The basic question was "have we ever executed a ‘John Doe’?) This would seem to be a close parallel. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/7 "2015-02-27T23:35:11Z")
The Youtubes are broke, so I have no idea what this nonsense is all about. But I’d rather die in a Nevada jail than live in California. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/8 "2015-02-28T02:34:33Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > The Youtubes are broke, so I have no idea what this nonsense is all about. But I’d rather die in a Nevada jail than live in California. It’s about the government’s illegal detention of Mr. Ebe. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/9 "2015-02-28T02:43:19Z")
How’d the jail turn up a BOTANIST of all things, to treat him? ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/10 "2015-02-28T03:33:53Z")
they rooted around. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/11 "2015-02-28T03:54:46Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > It’s about the government’s illegal detention of Mr. Ebe. Ah. That clears it up. I know all I need now. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/12 "2015-02-28T04:24:16Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > they rooted around. That still leaves a lot unanswered. Was he a stalker? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-ebe-held-for-years-in-nevada-without-hearing-or-legal-assistance/713776/13 "2015-02-28T09:15:09Z")
No, he was obviously a plant.