# Mr. Evil Breakfast is served. Pit style. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 17, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046 "2003-10-17T16:20:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/21 "2003-10-18T01:53:42Z")
I’m not really seeing your point. Please expand upon it. Do you agree or disagree with calling all 18 year olds ignorant and irresponsible? ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/22 "2003-10-18T03:03:00Z")
Who is Mr. Ruda Duda? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/23 "2003-10-18T04:36:54Z")
When I was 18, I had already been living on my own for a year. I kept a full-time job, paid my rent and utilities, bought groceries, and was thought of as an adult by those around me. I held a job with a great deal of responsibility. How is it fair to paint all 18-year-olds with the same brush? ---
**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/24 "2003-10-18T05:24:52Z")
Some of my best friends were teenagers. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/25 "2003-10-18T05:34:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GingerOfTheNorth \* > \*\*When I was 18, I had already been living on my own for a year. I kept a full-time job, paid my rent and utilities, bought groceries, and was thought of as an adult by those around me. I held a job with a great deal of responsibility. \*\* Sure, that’s all well and good, but get one drink in you and you’re running around, marrying idiots from one damn foreign hellhole or another! ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/26 "2003-10-18T05:35:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JonScribe \* > \*\*Some of my best friends were teenagers. \*\* 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![phraser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@phraser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phraser)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/27 "2003-10-18T06:45:33Z")
Og. People who stereotype the maturity level of others based on their age really irritate me. As someone who is born late in the school year and took advanced classes, I was accepted into university at the age of 15, three years before the average starting age here. It used to irk me no end that people (lecturers, tutors, fellow students) would treat me with the same respect they treated students of average age when they assumed I was of average age, but would immediately change their behaviour towards me when finding out that I was yet to reach the age where I would be allowed to leave the formal education system if I chose. Similarly, people who would judge me before even meeting me (as “too young” to take part in a particular event/club/social group) due to my age, also irk me. These people, upon later meeting me and not linking my name with a previous application, would almost always be happy for me to participate (…until I informed them of my age). I’m not talking about events associated with alcohol or other legal restrictions, either. If you can’t accurately pick someone’s age by their behaviour, why apply a stereotype? People rarely pick me as my current age (21) upon meeting me, as I’ve got a higher education, an employment record, and other trappings that usually only come with greater age than I have. However, even if I didn’t have these things, people stereotype immature behaviour as applying to youth, and as I’m not excessively immature, people assume I’m in my late twenties. On the other hand, immature behaviour is rampant in those of an age that some say “should know better”. I don’t think that immature behaviour is, in itself, a bad thing. People should be free to express their personality in whatever form it takes, within the accepted social conventions of not impinging on others. Lighthearted immaturity harms no-one but the person exercising the personality trait. Certainly, some people in their late teens are immature. Some people in their twenties, thirties and later are also extremely immature. Stereotyping does nothing to make people feel welcome and accepted in a community such as this one. This is one of the few communities where people’s comments and opinions are all that is judged when deciding whether or not they are a worthwhile person, as you can’t see a person’s age, and don’t know it unless they choose to reveal it. People should think carefully about what, if anything, the stereotype they are about to apply achieves. And, just for the sake of information, 18 is the legal drinking age in this country. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/28 "2003-10-18T07:22:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > \*\*The government considers 18 year olds mature enough to marry, die for their country, enter into contracts, but not mature enough to drink. > > Go figure. \*\* I think it’s because eighteen-year-olds are still in High School, and are lumped with kids as young as fourteen both physically and socially. Do you want an eighteen-year-old to buy a fifteen-year-old a drink? I know the question is condescending, insulting, and founded on false premises, but it’s what people tend to think of when they imagine High School-aged kids drinking. I know most eighteen-year-olds still in High School wouldn’t dream of coming to class drunk, but it only takes a surprisingly few bad examples to sour it for a large group of people. I think it comes down to the High School factor. Why that doesn’t affect perceptions of the draft or marriage is somewhat beyond me, but who said America was rational? ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/29 "2003-10-18T10:21:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Weirddave \* > \*\*Sure, that’s all well and good, but get one drink in you and you’re running around, marrying idiots from one damn foreign hellhole or another! \*\* Yeah, but Canadians are odd like that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/30 "2003-10-18T10:56:52Z")
> [@](#): > > They think that they have all of the answers to all of life’s questions and problems and that evryone else on the planet is stupider then 2 week old ear wax. Oddly enough, I did think this when I was 18. ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/31 "2003-10-18T14:29:44Z")
So did I, spooge. Come to think of it, I’m 32 and I still think that. Huh. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/32 "2003-10-18T15:25:56Z")
People who are exactly 35 years, 3 months, and 10 days old are complete bastards, especially between 10:00 and 11:00 in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/33 "2003-10-18T15:47:55Z")
I see, Thudlow. So your birthday was July 8, 1968, and you live in the central time zone? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Evil\_Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Mr.Evil\_Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Evil_Breakfast)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/34 "2003-10-18T15:50:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Derleth \* > \*\*Do you want an eighteen-year-old to buy a fifteen-year-old a drink? I know the question is condescending, insulting, and founded on false premises, but it’s what people tend to think of when they imagine High School-aged kids drinking. I know most eighteen-year-olds still in High School wouldn’t dream of coming to class drunk, \*\* Quite funny to see that the majority of posts in a Pit thread about a specific poster have little or nothing to do with the poster being pitted but instead evolve into a GD type thread. Better luck next time, **Garfield226** 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 I can quite clearly recall no less ten 90 seperate occasions when seniors in my class would come to school hammered off their asses. You know something’s wrong when the hallway reeks of stale Bud 20 minutes after they’ve passed through it. As far as the 18 year old buying a 15 year old a drink being based on false premises, the only false premise involved is the use of the word _buying._ The majority of **illegal** and underage drinking is done at parties where the booze is pretty much free, maybe $4 for a cup which entitles you to drink 'till you puke, then drink some more, then drive home and possibly kill 3 or 4 innocents along the way. And Gen Y is spoiled rotten and has a sense of entitlement that they in no way deserve. ---
**Author:** ![pencilpusher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d6d6ee/32.png) [@pencilpusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pencilpusher)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/35 "2003-10-18T16:14:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. Evil Breakfast \* > \*\* > And Gen Y is spoiled rotten and has a sense of entitlement that they in no way deserve. \*\* You are an asshole of the worst sort. My oldest son is 18 and he has NEVER had a drink of alcohol, has a full time job, volunteers to drive the elderly to drs appointments on his days off AND is taking weekend courses at the college. He doesn’t go around thinking he’s entitled to anything but what he’s EARNED. His friends are the same way. I don’t know where you went to school or who you were raised by but I reitierate… you are an asshole of the worst sort. 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/36 "2003-10-18T16:21:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Derleth \* > \*\*I think it’s because eighteen-year-olds are still in High School, and are lumped with kids as young as fourteen both physically and socially. Do you want an eighteen-year-old to buy a fifteen-year-old a drink? I know the question is condescending, insulting, and founded on false premises, but it’s what people tend to think of when they imagine High School-aged kids drinking. I know most eighteen-year-olds still in High School wouldn’t dream of coming to class drunk, but it only takes a surprisingly few bad examples to sour it for a large group of people. > \*\* Not so irrational. I was in high school when they reduced the age for booze to 18. and suddenly, there was a dramatic rise in high school kids drinking. (not that they don’t now, but there was a huge rise). It was, in fact, quite a bit easier for us to nudge a pal of ours a few months older than us to buy , vs. find some one who was three years older and in college or not living at home anymore to buy. So it isn’t a false premise. it was tried and that’s what they found happened. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/37 "2003-10-18T16:44:54Z")
**Mr. Evil Breakfast** , get a grip. Perhaps _your_ experience has left you short-sighted, but don’t go blaming everyone for the fact that your friends and peers happened to be losers. And, in fact, statistics (which do lie, I know) disagree with you. In [url=“[http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/databases/dkpat10.htm](http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/databases/dkpat10.htm)”]this survey of high school seniors from 1975 to 2001, it looks as if underage drinking up until that point has _declined_! So, kindly fuck off. Oh, and again: > [@](#): > > The majority of illegal and underage drinking is done at parties where the booze is pretty much free, maybe $4 for a cup which entitles you to drink 'till you puke, then drink some more, then drive home and possibly kill 3 or 4 innocents along the way. Maybe this is your experience, but don’t assume that this is true for everyone. And really classy there, yeah, I guess it must be true that most young punks get wasted and go kill people with their cars. Fuck off again. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/38 "2003-10-18T16:46:22Z")
jeez, sorry, click on the link [here](http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/databases/dkpat10.htm). ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/39 "2003-10-18T17:47:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. Evil Breakfast \* > **Quite funny to see that the majority of posts in a Pit thread about a specific poster have little or nothing to do with the poster being pitted but instead evolve into a GD type thread.** Yeah, well, that’s what happens when someone pees in the middle of your livingroom too. No one notices the drapes, they just complain about the smell. > [@](#): > > **I can quite clearly recall no less ten 90 seperate occasions when seniors in my class would come to school hammered off their asses. You know something’s wrong when the hallway reeks of stale Bud 20 minutes after they’ve passed through it.** As has already been pointed out, the quality of your friends/associates has nothing to do with this. The fact is that you’re prejudiced against a very large group of people. The fact is that there ARE teenagers who don’t drink. There ARE teenagers who don’t think they “know it all.” These facts, sir, prove you wrong. > [@](#): > > **As far as the 18 year old buying a 15 year old a drink being based on false premises, the only false premise involved is the use of the word _buying._ The majority of illegal and underage drinking is done at parties where the booze is pretty much free, maybe $4 for a cup which entitles you to drink 'till you puke, then drink some more, then drive home and possibly kill 3 or 4 innocents along the way.** Keep your debating about the drinking age out of my thread. This one’s about how big of an idiot you are. Unless you want to keep spewing more evidence. > [@](#): > > \*\*And Gen Y is spoiled rotten and has a sense of entitlement that they in no way deserve. \*\* Who seems to be playing Mr. Know-it-all now? Bigoted moron. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046/40 "2003-10-18T18:20:10Z")
There are so many reasons to Pit Mr. Breakfast. You’ve chosen one of the milder ones. He’s too easy though. I’d eat punk-ass posters like him for…well, breakfast if I wanted to. Look at this weak-ass crap he threw into GD. [shit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=217790). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-evil-breakfast-is-served-pit-style/208046.md?page=3)