# Mr. Robot on USA network **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 14, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135 "2015-07-14T13:26:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/61 "2015-08-31T20:33:13Z")
> [@MrLee](#): > > …almost all of the other characters were obsessed with making friends with or connecting with this guy: his old friend (the blonde one) from his office, the aforementioned’s new boyfriend, the promiscuous drug dealer, his gay boss, the suit guy who talks to him about computers - they all continually reached out to him \*personally \*- this seemed unrealistic. People who are not interesting or charismatic do not have people constantly trying to make friends (or have sex) with them. They’re not all reaching out to him because he’s so charismatic: [ul] [li]Angela, the blonde coworker, grew close to him because they both had parents die at a young age and have been friends since. A lot of people will overlook weird or distant behavior from longtime friends that if an acquaintance did instead they’d be annoyed by it. [/li][li]Ollie, Angela’s boyfriend (now ex-boyfriend) wouldn’t normally have anything to do with Elliot, but was reaching out to him because Elliot’s a good friend of Angela, and so he knew that he should at least be able to be friendly to him. Totally normal for a guy who’s trying to be a good boyfriend.[/li][li]I think that Shayla, the promiscuous drug dealer, was the type to just become friends with almost anyone. She didn’t introduce herself to Elliot, she just demanded that he open up his door and let her in so she could put the fish from the broken tank somewhere. Shayla also spent an entire day doing drugs and hanging out with Angela and she’d never met her before. She seems the type to just sit down by you at a restaurant and start talking like y’all were already in the middle of a conversation, even though you’d never met before.Also Elliot is an attractive guy, it’s not mind-boggling that an attractive woman his age would want to sleep with him. [/li][li]Gideon, his gay boss, is shown as one of the few overall good people on the show. He’s concerned about Elliot because Gideon is a good person. And also Elliot is a very smart, valuable employee, so even if he wasn’t a good person, he’d want to check in as a good boss.[/li][li]Tyrell, the suit guy, just sees Elliot as a possible resource. I’m pretty sure that Tyrell only sees people as how they can be useful to him or not, and Elliot is someone who could be useful.[/li][/ul] I think all the characters are well written and well acted. Elliot is a great center for the show, and I like how he’s portrayed and how the unreliable narrator stuff is done, but there are a bunch of great supporting characters. I can’t wait for the finale. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/62 "2015-08-31T20:49:07Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I’ve seen it mentioned online in more than one site that Tyrell is speaking Swedish to his wife, and she is speaking Danish to him. One such site (the information is in an August 3 comment) – > > [http://www.tv.com/shows/mr-robot/community/post/mr-robot-season-1-episode-3-debug-review-143628729487/](http://www.tv.com/shows/mr-robot/community/post/mr-robot-season-1-episode-3-debug-review-143628729487/) Oh my gosh! That is so bizarre! Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/63 "2015-08-31T21:00:59Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Another reason for the cafe owner/pedophile plotline was simply to establish that Elliott is a really good hacker. Yes. Another good reason. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/64 "2015-08-31T21:36:32Z")
Also to establish he was more interested in justice than material gain. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/65 "2015-08-31T21:43:07Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > I can’t wait for the finale. You probably will not be surprised. But, IMDB rates this show 9.1. I don’t remember the last time I saw IMDB rate a TV show above 9. It’s an indication to me this show is special. IMDB does not throw out ratings above 9.0 for no special reason. What’s the point? Well, … Pluck a Duck! IMO, you definitely picked a winner to fawn over. I want to fawn too. Well done! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/66 "2015-09-01T00:44:39Z")
I hope you realize that the rating of 9.1 isn’t the IMDB making some objective valuation of the program’s worth; it’s the average of reader ratings. 53,846 of them to be precise. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/67 "2015-09-01T00:52:34Z")
BTW, [here](http://www.imdb.com/chart/toptv?ref_=nv_tvv_250_3)’s the IMDB list of the top 250 shows. Thirty are 9.0 or better. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/68 "2015-09-01T01:34:19Z")
OK. Still, 30 is a fairly small number as compared to 250. But for me, the more subjective test is that I often go looking at IMDB ratings for TV shows and it’s a real surprise whenever I find one that is above 9. I just hardly ever see TV shows get rated at 9.0 or higher. It is very, very rare to see that. Do you see it often? It may not be a very good way to rate a movie. But I sure get a kick out of seeing any TV show rated above 9.0. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/69 "2015-09-01T13:58:57Z")
Finale tonight ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/70 "2015-09-01T15:19:36Z")
Tonight? My DVR has it listed for tomorrow, in the regular time slot it’s occupied since it started: Wednesday at 10pm. ---
**Author:** ![Learjeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Learjeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Learjeff)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/71 "2015-09-03T12:50:19Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Another reason for the cafe owner/pedophile plotline was simply to establish that Elliott is a really good hacker. It’s simply character development, and establishes a lot of Elliot’s qualities. Great start to the show, and no need to drag it out. Also, while Eliot is a great at tactics, he’s not the strategy man. At this point he has no long-term goal, and he’s not the manipulative type. That’s Mr Robot. Which turns out to be Elliot, but it makes sense to separate this side of himself from his conscious self. I was taken by surprise by the twist, so I’m clearly not as perceptive as you guys. That seemed to me to contradict, for example the scenes where Robot is alone with another character. It never occurred to me that that was really Elliot. I’m going to have to rewatch! > [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > They’re not all reaching out to him because he’s so charismatic … Right: they all have thir own motives, and they’re rather diverse. Elliot isn’t charismatic at all, rather, he’s very off-putting. Yet he’s remarkable enough due to his abilities (and perversely, sometimes his personality) to draw the attention of the others. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/72 "2015-09-03T14:16:59Z")
Finale was last night and IMO was really a letdown after how great the season had been. I expected this show to be better than the whole “You must wait until next season to know what happens!” bullshit. Really disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/73 "2015-09-03T14:22:00Z")
So was the Asian guy meeting with the E-Corp CEO at the end, the cross-dresser from the Chinese hacker organization that met with Elliot a few weeks ago? ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/74 "2015-09-03T14:25:06Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > So was the Asian guy meeting with the E-Corp CEO at the end, the cross-dresser from the Chinese hacker organization that met with Elliot a few weeks ago? Yes, that was BD Wong. Now why he was dressed as a women in his earlier scenes… no idea. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/75 "2015-09-03T14:31:47Z")
There’s a great little interview with the creator of the show [here](http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/mr-robots-creator-did-everything-in-my-power-to-telegraph-the-big-twist) that may clear up some apparent anomalies. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/76 "2015-09-03T14:38:48Z")
Thanks for the link. At one point, the show’s creator says, “There is a specific reason I named him Elliot, which I won’t get into, because it’s a little bit of a spoiler.” Anyone have any idea what he’s referring to? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/77 "2015-09-03T15:22:25Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Finale was last night and IMO was really a letdown after how great the season had been. I expected this show to be better than the whole “You must wait until next season to know what happens!” bullshit. > > Really disappointed. I sort of agree, but really we know most of what happens. We just don’t know what happened between Elliot and Tyrell. I loved the music in the episode, as always, specially Old Dirty Bastards “baby i got your money” during the fsociety party. Tyrell’s wife is beautiful to the point of distraction, how is she not more famous? ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/78 "2015-09-03T16:29:11Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Thanks for the link. At one point, the show’s creator says, “There is a specific reason I named him Elliot, which I won’t get into, because it’s a little bit of a spoiler.” Anyone have any idea what he’s referring to? I don’t know but I think there may be a connection with his telling that Danish/Swedish wife his name was “Ollie”. They are almost anagrams. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/79 "2015-09-03T16:31:13Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I sort of agree, but really we know most of what happens. We just don’t know what happened between Elliot and Tyrell. I loved the music in the episode, as always, specially Old Dirty Bastards “baby i got your money” during the fsociety party. Tyrell’s wife is beautiful to the point of distraction, how is she not more famous? So beautiful I was hoping she would become a major figure in this show. What are the odds she killed Tyrell and dumped his body? She was made to look like a much stronger player than him. She never said much (in English). But what she said was so powerful. “If you want to continue being a member of this family, you will have to fix this” Well, it doesn’t seem like he fixed it and it also seems like if you look at her face during her brief encounter with Elliot, there was a real good chance she was covering up for something or hiding something. I have to disagree with people who didn’t like this episode. I thought it was wunnerful. But, you must appreciate that I am a sucker when it comes to great shows. And this seems to me to be a truly great show. ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135/80 "2015-09-03T17:29:30Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Tyrell’s wife is beautiful to the point of distraction, how is she not more famous? According to IMDB she had her first role in 2013 so she’s just getting started. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-robot-on-usa-network/725135.md?page=5)