# Mr. Romney, just what in the fuck ARE you responsible for?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 4, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452 "2012-08-04T20:09:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/21 "2012-08-05T00:50:01Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> “Romney – the only white meat.”

Very rude. Very funny.

And all too terribly true.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/22 "2012-08-05T01:38:29Z")

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1. Rich asshole
2. ???
3. Profit!

He’s responsible for the mysterious step 2!

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/23 "2012-08-05T02:29:55Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> > [@Shakes](#):
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> > Forget that you were the sole stock holder, CEO, President of Bain Capitol.
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> You failed right out of the gate. That’s not a true statement at all and shows what level you’re operating on (hint: pretty goddamn low, even for the SDMB).

Not being snarky at all here: what **is** the truth about his former and current holdings and when he divested from them? If not too inconvenient, provide a cite for others’ reference.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/24 "2012-08-05T02:42:24Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Not being snarky at all here: what **is** the truth about his former and current holdings and when he divested from them? If not too inconvenient, provide a cite for others’ reference.

[According to Wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_Capital), he was one of 3 founding partners of Bain Capital.

However, I believe the disputed quote comes from papers files with the SEC circa 1999, which stated that Romney was the “sole shareholder, sole director, Chief Executive Officer and President” of Bain.

That quote is on the same wiki page.

Rand, where is your information to the contrary?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/25 "2012-08-05T02:49:36Z")

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Perhaps Romney was retroactively never hired by Bain, either.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/26 "2012-08-05T03:07:02Z")

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I just want to point out that Mitt Romney is an anagram for Memory Tint, or if you prefer, Not My Merit. Hee hee 😃

A bit of a non sequitur, but here are some fun Willard Mitt Romney anagrams:

Tiny Treadmill Worm  
Midwinter Yam Troll

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**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/27 "2012-08-05T03:18:33Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> That’s the secret for guys like Romney, his life is many times over better than yours even when he loses the election in November.

Why do you assume that having money makes your life automatically better? Many rich people have unhappy lives. Money doesn’t get rid of problems, it just brings a different set of problems.

Just taking a wild guess here, I think you know absolutely nothing about Mitt Romney’s level of happiness, and anything you do know is based on a carefully-crafted public persona and has nothing to do with reality.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/28 "2012-08-05T03:22:59Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> He is responsible for Romneycare and he should be proud of it. If had a clue what leadership is and if gave a damn about average Americans, he would be running on it.

He vetoed eight clauses of that bill. All eight vetoes were overridden. He’s not running on it because he really was, and is, opposed to it.

I think Rand Rover is arguing that Romney did not forget he ran Bain. Which is true. But “Forget…” in this case is an idiom, if a badly used one.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/29 "2012-08-05T03:26:24Z")

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He’s responsible for saving the auto industry, or at least he’ll take credit for it.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/30 "2012-08-05T03:32:40Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> I think Rand Rover is arguing that Romney did not forget he ran Bain. Which is true. But “Forget…” in this case is an idiom, if a badly used one.

That or **Rand** buys into the retroactive retirement bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/31 "2012-08-05T03:34:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Heck, Romney’s life was many times over better than mine on the day he was born. Romney was born a millionaire, he grew up a millionaire, he’s always been a millionaire, and he’ll probably always be a millionaire.

Yep. He’ll stil be rich and happy regardless of what happens in November. Good for him, he earned it.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/32 "2012-08-05T03:51:59Z")

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Hey look, dinosaurs!

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/33 "2012-08-05T03:53:42Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Hey look, dinosaurs!

Jesus Horses.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/34 "2012-08-05T03:58:26Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Heck, Romney’s life was many times over better than mine on the day he was born. Romney was born a millionaire, he grew up a millionaire, he’s always been a millionaire, and he’ll probably always be a millionaire.

> [@Lochdale](#):
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> Yep. He’ll stil be rich and happy regardless of what happens in November. Good for him, he earned it.

Explain how he earned being born rich.

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**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/35 "2012-08-05T05:08:22Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Explain how he earned being born rich.

He was good in a previous life…oh wait, Mormons/Christians don’t believe in reincarnation…

Dang, what was the question, again?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/36 "2012-08-05T06:16:25Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> You failed right out of the gate. That’s not a true statement at all and shows what level you’re operating on (hint: pretty goddamn low, even for the SDMB).

Yeah, don’t you know he resigned retroactively ?!

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/37 "2012-08-05T06:58:53Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> He vetoed eight clauses of that bill. All eight vetoes were overridden. He’s not running on it because he really was, and is, opposed to it…

He opposed the bill he signed into law? Those eight sections were peripheral issues, not the meat of the legislation.

Massachussetts Health Care Reform is far from perfect, but it’s the most important thing Romney did as a politician. Getting it done with a legislature dominated by the opposition was a demonstration of actual leadership. He’s always been a fool not to own it.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/38 "2012-08-05T07:47:24Z")

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> [@Lochdale](#):
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> Yep. He’ll stil be rich and happy regardless of what happens in November. Good for him, he earned it.

No. He’s not even responsible for his fortune. He has always behaved as if the world owed Mitt Romney a living.

> [@al27052](#):
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> He was good in a previous life…oh wait, Mormons/Christians don’t believe in reincarnation…
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> Dang, what was the question, again?

Oh! He will earn it in the future, retroactively! But he has to be elected President, so he can be only the greatest POTUS ever, and earn all that money! You wouldn’t want to cheat him out of the chance to legitimize his awesome wealth, wouldja?

[Note to the naive: This is a sarcastic portrayal of a scam argument. Do not vote for Mitt Romney on the theory that he’ll suddenly be a good thing. He will just line his pockets and those of his cronies, BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT HE DOES.]

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/39 "2012-08-05T13:18:23Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> You failed right out of the gate. That’s not a true statement at all and shows what level you’re operating on (hint: pretty goddamn low, even for the SDMB).

Rand, even if I were wrong, (Which I am not) what gives you the impression I am purposely lying? I assume this is why you accuse me of hitting below the belt.

Oh, and provide some fucking cites.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-romney-just-what-in-the-fuck-are-you-responsible-for/630452/40 "2012-08-05T13:37:26Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> Rand, even if I were wrong, (Which I am not) what gives you the impression I am purposely lying? I assume this is why you accuse me of hitting below the belt.
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> Oh, and provide some fucking cites.

I didn’t imply you were lying, I implied you are stupid. Which is further supported by you asjking me for cites that your claims are wrong.

Here’s a hint: how can a person be the sole stockholder of an entity that doesn’t issue stock?

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