# Mr. Shoe is in the hospital **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 12, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279 "2012-08-12T16:58:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/362 "2012-09-10T18:46:42Z")
[quote=“flatlined, post:356, topic:631279”] Oh oops. Guess how my card was addressed? Oh, that’s alright. 🙂 > [@flatlined](#): > > Not only post to it, but start up a thread about “ask the guy who almost died from WNV”. Because its a given that he _will_ survive and post for our entertainment. I’ll run this by him. 😛 > [@flatlined](#): > > Would you trust a cleaning service to go into your home? I’m not thinking that you are a slob or anything, but cleaning the toilets must be way down on your list of things to do right now. I’m guessing that if all of the Dopers in this thread were to pony up 5 bucks, we would have enough money to get Merry Maids to dust and scrub for you. > > I got ticked off and ripped off by paypall, so someone else will have to collect the money. I’ll offer up the first 5 bucks, though. _glances at bathroom_ :smack: Yeah, I’m no slob, but you’re right about toilet-scrubbing and floor-mopping not being high on my priority list right now. I’m touched beyond words, though, at how thoughtful everyone is being. OK, time for your update. He was alert yesterday and today, which is nice. He’s scheduled for yet _another_ bronchioscopy today; the nurses said they lavaged his lungs out three times in a row this morning and couldn’t get much out that way. Really, the issue now is this: between the pulmonologists, the infectious disease doctors, and whoever the hell else is consulting on his case, they are all kind of doing this now: 😕 and also a whole lotta this: 😕😕😕😕😕 They’re running out of ideas, running out of treatment options to throw at him, and still have no real idea why he crashed so badly on Saturday or why his lungs are still so #$%&\* to begin with. One said flat-out that he can’t remember the last time they’ve seen a young relatively healthy guy take so long to get off a ventilator. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/363 "2012-09-10T19:32:03Z")
Not that it’s likely to be anything but WNV but hantovirus has now been found in Texas. I hope like heck they get his lungs back in shape and you can both be home curled up together on the couch before you know it. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/364 "2012-09-10T19:42:39Z")
I wish someone who knows how would set something up so we could donate to a cleaning fund. And I wish the gremlins in Schmoopie’s lungs would DIE. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_is_the_new_Analog)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/365 "2012-09-11T00:42:46Z")
Just popping in to show support…still sending purple thoughts your way… I mean…healing thoughts. 🙂 -D/a ---
**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/366 "2012-09-11T03:26:49Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > I wish someone who knows how would set something up so we could donate to a cleaning fund. And I wish the gremlins in Schmoopie’s lungs would DIE. I totally agree with both wishes. I wonder if we can impose on **Lynn Bodoni**. She is in the shoes’ location and I thinks I remember her offering to help. She knows a lot of stuff, she might know which cleaning companies have good reps out there. I’ll send **Lynn Bodoni** a PM and ask. Of course, I’ll send her a link to this thread. No pressure, **Lynn** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/367 "2012-09-11T03:52:45Z")
Might this be the time to ask his docs if there’s another, more appropriate hospital he should be moved to? Or get other doctors involved? If they’re stumped they should be wanting different input, I would think. And to tell you “Never saw a young man take so long…” etc. 😕 From what I’ve read here the answer to Why is obvious…_his lungs keep filling up with stuff._ That’s why! I hope I’m not out of line (!) but it’s almost like it’s being implied that Schmoopie isn’t where he should be, because…? 😕😕😕 Maybe they’re all going to consult and come up with another line of action tomorrow. I feel strongly that your sweetie is going to be okay, but have you contacted the Patients’ Advocate? It never hurts and can be a big help sometimes. Don’t let the doctors put the lack of progress anywhere except where it lies, okay? It’s not like Schmoopie is unwilling to cooperate. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/368 "2012-09-11T16:06:55Z")
I don’t visit MPSIMS much anymore so I’m just now seeing this thread and wanted to pop in and say how relieved I am that even though it’s this long that he’s hanging in there (I was terrified that it would be filled with SFYL (I won’t type it out because I don’t want to jinx anything) posts. I’ll be the Jewish one adding to the healing thoughts pool! > [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Yeah, except now they’re all hassling me for his iTunes account number (so they can do some sort of GPS anti-theft setup? I think? I doubt any of them know … ) which I don’t know, nor the password when he set up the account however the fuck long ago, and clicking “reset password” on the iTunes on our home computer isn’t doing the trick, as nothing is showing up in his inbox nor his junk folder, and I just wanted to take a goddam nap and I can’t find a Post-It or anything with any sort of related info among the crap on the desk, and because my job involves website content updates on a freakin’ template they all think I’m Steve fucking Jobs or something and I appreciate that they did all this but I Don’;t Know The Fucking Apple Number For His ITunes Let ME SLEEEEEEP. Are you using a Mac or a PC? If you’re using a PC, from the browser click Tools, then Options, go to the Security tab, click the Saved Passwords button, then Show Passwords, and any website he clicked the “yes” button for to store his password for that site will be in there. > [@Becky2844](#): > > Might this be the time to ask his docs if there’s another, more appropriate hospital he should be moved to? Or get other doctors involved? If they’re stumped they should be wanting different input, I would think. > > And to tell you “Never saw a young man take so long…” etc. 😕 From what I’ve read here the answer to Why is obvious…_his lungs keep filling up with stuff._ That’s why! > > I hope I’m not out of line (!) but it’s almost like it’s being implied that Schmoopie isn’t where he should be, because…? 😕😕😕 > > Maybe they’re all going to consult and come up with another line of action tomorrow. > > I feel strongly that your sweetie is going to be okay, but have you contacted the Patients’ Advocate? It never hurts and can be a big help sometimes. Don’t let the doctors put the lack of progress anywhere except where it lies, okay? It’s not like Schmoopie is unwilling to cooperate. I’m kind of addicted to “Mystery Diagnosis” and from what I know from watching it, this post is spot on. Get new eyes on his charts, get him to a different facility, whatever it takes, but if _these_ folks haven’t figured it out, they’ve overlooked something or haven’t thought of something. And if that’s the case, they may never see it themselves (it’s like trying to copy edit your own work; your eye sees what your mind expects to see on the paper or screen and not the mistake that’s actually there), so get someone who will go back to the beginning with new eyes and ideas. Sending my best wishes your way. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/369 "2012-09-11T19:34:59Z")
> [@Becky2844](#): > > .. And to tell you “Never saw a young man take so long…” etc. 😕 From what I’ve read here the answer to Why is obvious…_his lungs keep filling up with stuff._ That’s why! … Well, to be more specific, it’s “why do his lungs keep filling up with stuff?” that’s the real issue. > [@Shayna](#): > > I don’t visit MPSIMS much anymore so I’m just now seeing this thread and wanted to pop in and say how relieved I am that even though it’s this long that he’s hanging in there (I was terrified that it would be filled with SFYL (I won’t type it out because I don’t want to jinx anything) posts. I’ll be the Jewish one adding to the healing thoughts pool! … Thank you kindly. > [@Shayna](#): > > Are you using a Mac or a PC? If you’re using a PC, from the browser click Tools, then Options, go to the Security tab, click the Saved Passwords button, then Show Passwords, and any website he clicked the “yes” button for to store his password for that site will be in there. … I will try this tonight. Thanks for the suggestion! ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/370 "2012-09-13T01:21:55Z")
I’m worried - is there any update, purplehorseshoe? StG ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/371 "2012-09-13T08:28:22Z")
Sending healing thoughts and waiting for news… ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/372 "2012-09-13T13:30:44Z")
^^^ This and hoping that ‘no news is good news’. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/373 "2012-09-13T13:37:59Z")
Glad to know there’s good news on the **\<3oD** front, and hoping things get back to “better, better, best” on the **purple** side. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/374 "2012-09-13T17:38:50Z")
Purple, I am hoping that you are too busy moving Mr. Shoe into the rehab center or that you are taking a well-deserved break to post an update. Sending wonderful thoughts your way. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/375 "2012-09-13T20:34:10Z")
Thanks everyone, and apologies for not popping back in earlier. Just been tired and, really, there just hasn’t been too much to say. He’s stable, mostly about the same, doing a lil’ bit better here and there. His resp. tech is slowly dialing back his PEEP and overall oxygen levels; I believe he’s supposed to try spontaneous breathing this afternoon; and although they have his bed set up to do the shakey-shakey thing (of which he is clearly no big fan - he always gets this blissful _AAAAAAAAaaaaahhhhhh_ expression when it stops) to help keep his lungbutter all loosened up, they haven’t seen a need for any more bronchioscopes or anything like that. They have, however, started making some noises about his gallbladder ("… that’s really not surprising in someone who’s been this sick for this long…") and did a sonogram of it yesterday to see what his gallbladder and liver are up to these days. Haven’t heard anything one way or t’other. Let’s hope it’s minor and/or no big deal. Oh, most importantly: \*\*thank you \*\*to those who have sent cards already. 😃 His parents always have this weird expression when he opens them and I’m all nosy: “Who’s it from? Oh, it’s {{string of random words}}. Where’s he live? Oops … she?” Anonymous internet stranger friends just don’t make sense to them, I guess. 😃 Anyway, it’s nice knowing random folks care, and I appreciate that everyone’s still poking in here for updates. (Finally: huzzah for me for finally getting that dang iPad set up so he can access it with his own account! Man, I feel ridiculously out of touch with all this newfangled technology… ) ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/376 "2012-09-14T00:41:32Z")
Yay for improvements! Yay for technology! Were you able to find his passwords through his browser? ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/377 "2012-09-14T02:30:23Z")
I texted him the security Q’s and he texted back the answers … (It was his Apple ID I needed, not a website password. Still, a handy hint that I’m tucking into the back of my mind.) ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/378 "2012-09-14T04:01:25Z")
Today was his aunt’s birthday, so tonight during the last visiting hour we had a wee little party in his room. All her gifts were items he’d picked out knowing she’d want them _(and he was right each time … he’s damn good at this, even from his hospital bed)_. He’d mentioned to me earlier that he hadn’t slept for $%&\* the night before, and I found out as I was leaving that he’d specifically asked for a) something to help him relax and sleep tonight, and b) for the nurse to be sure and hold off on giving it to him until after the last visiting hour. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/379 "2012-09-14T04:05:55Z")
Yay! But don’t feel you have to respond to our fears. Take care of yourself. Take care of hubby. Then you can take care of us. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/380 "2012-09-14T04:07:05Z")
Hang in there Mrs. and Mr. Purple. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279/381 "2012-09-15T13:26:21Z")
Keeping you in our thoughts, Purple. Not knowing why his lungs keep filling up has got to be extremely frustrating. We’re all pulling for you guys and wishing we could be more helpful. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-shoe-is-in-the-hospital/631279.md?page=20)