# Mr. Spock can go to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 23, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364 "2021-08-23T12:08:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![eburacum45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum45/32/8690_2.png) [@eburacum45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum45)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/61 "2021-08-24T17:00:54Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > One of the Treks explained that by giving every sentient species a common ancestor. This explains nothing. I have a common ancestor with a starfish, but we can’t interbreed. (Not that I’ve tried). ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/62 "2021-08-24T17:01:56Z")
Starfish aren’t bipedal. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![eburacum45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum45/32/8690_2.png) [@eburacum45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum45)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/63 "2021-08-24T17:03:01Z")
Patrick Star is, I understand. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/64 "2021-08-24T17:12:02Z")
> [@eburacum45](#): > > I have a common ancestor with a starfish, but we can’t interbreed. You can have sex with a chocolate starfish but that won’t produce offspring. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/65 "2021-08-24T17:41:04Z")
On that note, I would say that the fact that all across the galaxy sentients look the same modulo weird ears and forehead wrinkles, should be proof to the young earth creationists that they were all made in gods image and so all be the same as far as the divine plan. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/66 "2021-08-24T17:52:40Z")
His primary concern should be whether or not God allows idiots into Heaven. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/67 "2021-08-24T18:04:02Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > “Superman would find it as easy to mate with an ear of corn as with LL” (He used initials to avoid specifiying Lois Lane, Lana Lang, Lori Lemaris, or any other candidate) Lori Lemaris would have an extra degree of difficulty, I should think, due to the whole being a fish below the waist thing. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/68 "2021-08-24T19:17:02Z")
Well, she would lay her eggs and he would germinate them. I guess it would actually be pretty easy. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/69 "2021-08-24T19:52:26Z")
In more recent interpretations, Lori gains legs when she comes out on land, a la Darryl Hannah in **Splash** , so they just couldn’t do it in the water. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/70 "2021-08-25T00:36:29Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > Lori Lemaris would have an extra degree of difficulty, I should think, due to the whole being a fish below the waist thing. Clark resolved that problem already in one issue… [![](https://storage.googleapis.com/hipcomic/p/507752379be222a38f895427af5e2ec3-800.jpg) ](https://storage.googleapis.com/hipcomic/p/507752379be222a38f895427af5e2ec3-800.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/71 "2021-08-25T00:50:54Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > Lori Lemaris would have an extra degree of difficulty, I should think, due to the whole being a fish below the waist thing. - I heard she was dating [Tommy Roe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Roe) for a while. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/72 "2021-08-25T00:55:03Z")
What does Lori use to keep her hair like that under water? Aqua-Net. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/73 "2021-08-25T01:28:32Z")
Spock sacrificing his life wasn’t much of a sacrifice, since obviously, he got his life back. Kinda like Jesus’ sacrifice, one can argue. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/74 "2021-08-25T05:56:25Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > It’s not just that extraterrestrials don’t exist. Ham says authoritatively that even if they existed, God wouldn’t save them. He’s human-chauvinist. He may be saying that aliens, having evolved through an entirely separate evolutionary pathway, may not have anything like a soul. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/75 "2021-08-25T06:02:46Z")
If they “evolved,” they _definitely_ don’t have souls. Souls are the exclusive property of beings created directly from the mind of The One And Only White Christian Supreme Being; all others are no better than golems (or, as we were taught in Catholic school, “brutes”). ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/76 "2021-08-25T06:30:16Z")
Vulcans don’t exactly have a _soul_ but instead a _katra_ which seems to work a little differently. Vulcans never entirely die, for their _katra_ lives on, but unlike a soul, the katra can be implanted in another living body. So a katra needs to remain accessible, and can’t go to some eternally irreversible place like heaven or hell. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/77 "2021-08-25T06:36:15Z")
This is stated where? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/78 "2021-08-25T06:38:02Z")
I read about it at the memory-alpha and memory-beta Trek wikis, which in turn cite all the episodes, movies, and novels where all those tidbits of knowledge came from. ---
**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/79 "2021-08-25T06:42:25Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Perfect fodder for a _Far Side_ cartoon right there. Picture a group of extraterrestrials saying their God won’t save Ken Ham “Ken Ham is a p’takh who will never go to Sto’Va’Kor!” - Klingon message board topic ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364/80 "2021-08-25T15:33:50Z")
I’m not a trekkie at all, but I did live for 6 months with a guy who was, so I watched a lot of Star Trek. The reason I post is: I am pretty sure “Mr” is the wrong title, was he not “Dr. Spock”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-spock-can-go-to-hell/949364.md?page=5)