# "Ms. Elizabeth" is dead!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 1, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454 "2003-05-01T19:17:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NoGoodNamesLeft](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NoGoodNamesLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoGoodNamesLeft)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/1 "2003-05-01T19:17:03Z")

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For anybody who watched WWF in the 80’s, ‘Miss Elizabeth’ was found dead this morning in her boyfrriend’s apartment.

Early indications point toward an OD.

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**Author:** ![Lizochka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Lizochka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizochka)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/2 "2003-05-01T19:19:16Z")

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She had something to do with Macho Man Randy Savage, no?

btw, this thread title scared the bejeezus out of me, as my grandparents call me Miss Elizabeth. Mip!

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**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/3 "2003-05-01T19:23:00Z")

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The boyfriend in question is none other than former WWF/WCW “superstar” Lex Luger, if anyone cares.

Luger was questioned by police but was released and is not a suspect, despite police responding to a domestic disturbance call at his home Sunday.

Sad day in the wrestling world.

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**Author:** ![NoGoodNamesLeft](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NoGoodNamesLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoGoodNamesLeft)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/4 "2003-05-01T19:23:37Z")

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She was his “manager” and real-life wife. They split years ago I think, and she was found at another wrestler’s apartment (“Lex Lugar”), so I guess she was shacked up with him now.

Sorry to scare 'ya, 'liz! 😮

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/5 "2003-05-01T19:25:05Z")

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I knew who you meant as soon as I read the thread title. Damn it! Why couldn’t it be Scary Sherri?

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**Author:** ![NoGoodNamesLeft](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NoGoodNamesLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoGoodNamesLeft)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/6 "2003-05-01T19:30:57Z")

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…the same evil force that allowed 5 bullets to hit John and completely miss Yoko!

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/7 "2003-05-01T19:37:43Z")

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That’s a dark sense of humor you’ve got there, NoGoodNamesLeft. Very dark.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/8 "2003-05-01T20:31:02Z")

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It’s sad but I was more disheartened by Curt Hennig’s death a few months ago than I am by this.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/9 "2003-05-01T21:47:18Z")

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I can’t find anything on the web. Can someone post a link, please? Thanks.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/10 "2003-05-01T21:54:38Z")

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[http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/newsboard.php?news\_id=6371](http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/newsboard.php?news_id=6371)

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/11 "2003-05-01T22:10:38Z")

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Thank you.

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**Author:** ![herman\_and\_bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f1d935/32.png) [@herman\_and\_bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/herman_and_bill)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/12 "2003-05-01T22:25:25Z")

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I used to watch that shit just to see Elizabeth.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/13 "2003-05-01T22:51:53Z")

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> For anybody who watched WWF in the 80’s, ‘Miss Elizabeth’ was found dead this morning in her boyfrriend’s apartment.

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☹ She was my dream girl at a very young age. Sad to see her go.  
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> That’s a dark sense of humor you’ve got there, NoGoodNamesLeft. Very dark.\*\*

That joke is over 20 years old. Are you really surprised to hear it?

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> It’s sad but I was more disheartened by Curt Hennig’s death a few months ago than I am by this.\*\*

Holy shit. Several people were telling me a few months ago that “some wrestler” died but since no one could name him I figured he was just an unknown. The perfectplex will always bring a smile to my face, having been on the wrong end of it several times by some rabid wrestling fans.

☹

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**Author:** ![Convict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Convict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Convict)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/14 "2003-05-01T23:00:57Z")

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Here’s an update…

Lex Luger (real name Larry Pfohl) has been arrested on drug charges. He is not being held in connection with Ms. Elizabeth’s death.

In related news, apparently the police were called to Pfohl’s condo on Easter Sunday on a domestic abuse charge. Ms. Elizabeth (real name Elizabeth Heulette) had a black eye but attributed it to a fall.

Supporting stories can be found at the following sites:

[www.wrestlingobserver.com](http://www.wrestlingobserver.com)  
[www.1wrestling.com](http://www.1wrestling.com)  
[www.pwtorch.com](http://www.pwtorch.com)  
[www.411mania.com/wrestling/411wrestlingindex.php](http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/411wrestlingindex.php)

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/15 "2003-05-02T00:47:36Z")

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What I thought when I read this thread title was…  
'lizabeth. I’m coming for you honey!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/16 "2003-05-02T01:18:36Z")

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Which one was Curt Hennig?

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/17 "2003-05-02T03:51:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoGoodNamesLeft \*  
> …the same evil force that allowed 5 bullets to hit John and completely miss Yoko!

Thanks, I needed that.

Bwaaahaahaahaahaahaa …

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/18 "2003-05-02T04:00:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Marley23 \*  
> \*\*Which one was Curt Hennig? \*\*

Curt Hennig was “Mr. Perfect”. His heel perfect gimmick was always one of my favorites. He actually had a really great series of battles with Lex Luger in the WWF. I can’t remember if Ms. Elizabeth was ever part of that fued.

I grew up watching professional wrestling. It’s so sad to see this happening over and over and over again. Damn.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/19 "2003-05-02T04:03:27Z")

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I remember reading way back when that the guy who played the Ultimate Warrior died, is that right? Nobody ever worked that out when I was of an age to be into wrestling, maybe somebody here would know.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-elizabeth-is-dead/172454/20 "2003-05-02T04:21:07Z")

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I don’t remember the Ultimate Warrier dying. I hope its not true. The WCW had a Warrior copy called “The Renegade” who commited suicide years ago.

I was a great fan of Ravishing Rick Rude, who used to kiss the ladies in the audience. I believe he died from drug use…

Yokozuna was found dead, not that long ago, in an apartment in Paris, if I remember correctly. Flyin’ Brian Pillman died under suspicious circumstances.

And didn’t Dino Bravo die from some drug related violence?

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