Yeah, a tad exaggerated from “we only have twelve years to act to forestall massive environmental catastrophe.”
God, what a ditzbrain, exaggerating like that. :rolleyes:
By a thirteen point margin, Democrats would prefer to focus on improving the ACA rather than going for MFA: Public Opinion on Single-Payer, National Health Plans, and Expanding Access to Medicare Coverage | KFF
I’m glad you found my concession peppery or tasty, but no snark was intended. (I often notice claims going too far and, to my discredit, often ignore such flaws if they’re “on my side.”)
BTW, I have a Y-chromosome; my sister Septima doesn’t (nor is she the long-time Doper named Septima).
Manfully it is!
Did they say “if you don’t quit smoking, you will die in six months”?
You people slay me. $21 trillion from the Pentagon, the world is coming to an end - just slight exaggerations. It’s not like it’s about something serious, like an inauguration.
Regards,
Shodan
Exaggeration and hyperbole work in politics. Trump proved that. Can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube now. This is America.
Phrasing it like that seems deceptive, though. We do not have some mythical 12-year deadline that we have to get things fixed by. The less we do, the shorter the margin becomes. The tipping point could be less than 12 years if we keep making things worse. The world (our ecosystem) will not literally end at the tipping point, but it will be on an irreversible downward trend.
Or, you know, 6000 criminal gang members crossing the Mexican border, used as an excuse to demand a Wall that is the reason the government is shut down. Or 18 million illegal votes in 2016, used as an excuse to purge voters likely to support political opponents from the rolls and dissolve the voter fraud commission. But hey, it’s not like it’s something serious like a freshman congresswoman making a passing comment in an interview.
Besides, IOKIARDI.
And, while it may be that I am reading the chart wrong, the # and the % are describing two* different data sets and have only a, at best, correlative relation with each other. And, if so, any argument which starts with the assumption that there is a direct mathematical relationship between the # and the % is a flawed one at that. You know, arguments like:
(I wouldn’t hold up a lake city as a proxy for the (largely landlocked) Midwest, but whatever.)
Regardless, you can have BOTH an increase in the number of REALLY HOT days AND an increase in the number of days you need to run your A/C, but arguing that the two must have a mathematical relationship so simple you can derive it just by looking at… how was it put, “cherry picked” data… is not at all accurate. ��
*Well, four - two data sets for heating, two for cooling.
Mea culpa, won’t deny my mistake there. Gloat away.
No shit, it was fucking hilarious! The fact that she implied the world was coming to an end in twelve years, when what she meant was if we don’t take huge step to fix things in twelve years we’re all fucked…sure, laughed my tits off! Silly fucking cow, eh?
I appreciate that it’s not a problem that will affect you, on account of you being an old fuck and all that, but considering you presumably love your adopted kids…don’t you wonder if it might be better to focus on the actual issue there, rather than trying to score some points against the young female politician who gets you so het up?
What does this even mean? (No, not the “IOKIARDI” — I didn’t know what that means either, but Googled it — the “serious … inauguration.”)
My guess is: Fraudster/Traitor lied about his inauguration; Fact-checkers caught him in the Lie; Mr. Regards thinks that fact-checking was a waste of time; the trillions spent on that fact-checking should have been spent on more Benghazi investigations or on a military parade bigger and better than Kim Jong-il’s. Am I warm?
Point of fucking order. They are his kids. Full-fucking-stop.
You are entirely correct. I apologise to Shodan.
He is implying that the Democrats/Left raised a tempest in a teapot over that, so, I guess, why should we take them seriously, or something like that.
That’s very kind of you, and I appreciate it, but it isn’t at all necessary. It’s the same thing.
However, now that you have triggered me, in penance you must now listen to an interminable monologue on how well my children are doing in their jobs, how we are going out for my and my son’s birthday tomorrow, what they had to say over the holidays, what my daughter did for her godson’s birthday, my son’s new hairstyle, where we are going for our next family vacation, etc., etc. Get comfortable - this is going to take a while.
Regards,
Shodan
It is the same thing, which is why suggesting a distinction is entirely incorrect. The apology is entirely necessary.
Just a fucking shame then that if we don’t take major steps in the very near future (as a non-partisan person would have construed AOC’s comments) they and their children are royally fucked.
Andros and Gary Kumquat: The kind of behaviour you just exhibited is a great reminder that even if we disagree vehemently on politics, there are good people on both sides. Thank you.
Why would I want to do that? Climate change will make extremes worse. You may end up having a slightly higher average temperature, but you don’t take average temperature to the bank.
What you will also see is more and more extreme storms and temperatures. You will get highs that you’ve never seen before in the summer, and lows like you’ve never seen in the winter. You will also see record snowfalls, wind speeds and all the other fun weather activities.
Improving the ACA is moving in the direction of MFA. I don’t like the ACA as is, it was, at best, an okay start. It was flawed, and pretty terrible, and the only thing it had going for it was that it was much better than what we had before.
A reasonable government would start with ACA, and improve it, with the likely outcome and maybe even goal of eventually becoming MFA.
I was told I wouldn’t see my 30th birthday (I did), among many ultimatums about things that could happen to me. Now, I didn’t die before 30, but there are those who did.
If you tell me and my friend that we will be dead by 30 if we don’t quit smoking, and I am still around at 31, but my friend died from smoking related illness at 29, did I really just prove them wrong that smoking is harmful to my health?
Well, you are the one that gets all butthurt about these slight exaggerations. They way you go on about it, you’d think that her comments were something serious.
Of the countless things I hate Trump for, one of them is that he seems to have sparked this notion for many on the left: “fuck it, Trump lies constantly, so why should we bother to be honest and accurate?” No. No! NO.
It’s a little hard to parse what you are even claiming here, but I think it’s highly likely you read the chart wrong, and a certainty that you read my comment wrong. The numbers that Gary misread are about extreme cold and extreme heat. Is that what you are referring to? Because I didn’t link them to anything: my only reference to them was to tell Gary they were not degree days.
ETA: Much of the Midwest as defined in this report (not including states like Kansas or Nebraska) is in fact part of the Great Lakes region.
I won’t! A straightforward mea culpa of this sort is much stronger than any other response you could offer (or not responding at all), and I respect that. A lesson that still needs to be learned, BTW, by liberals who are stubbornly doubling down on the Covington thing—and, yes: by Trump a hundred times a day, every day.