# msmith537, What is your major malfunction?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 24, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333 "2005-05-24T21:28:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/81 "2005-05-27T17:25:40Z")

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Does that mean women are either funny or crave meat? This is very confusing.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/82 "2005-05-27T17:42:52Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> What’s that got to do with it? Are you under the impression that sexist assholes don’t get married and have wives they treat like emotional punching bags?

Please…every woman should be treated as badly as my girlfriend.

Look…you obviously have a lot of man-baggage that has absolutely nothing with me occassional being a jerk anonymously. To keep things in perspective, you appear to have speant a lot of time digging through my old posts in order to satisfy some long-standing percieved grudge while I really don’t remember your user name at all. Also remember that this is a message board and I can easily tune out your insults just as you should be tuning me out if you don’t like my posts.

Beside, since I’m a man, I’m only going to hear what I what to hear anyway:

> [@askeptic](#):
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> Remember this is the Pit where we can call someone a scum sucking goat feltching ass hat

Thanks!! My goat-ass hat is quite fetching!

(see)

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/83 "2005-05-27T17:43:53Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Please…every woman should be treated as badly as my girlfriend.

Just to clarify, I don’t mean I abuse my girlfriend and want to do the same to all women.

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/84 "2005-05-27T17:45:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Look…you obviously have a lot of man-baggage

Are you saying Maureen has balls, and big ones at that?

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/85 "2005-05-27T17:47:22Z")

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Sweetie, I do not flatter myself by thinking I represent all women. Nor do I think you have anything against me in particular. Just women in general. And, on this board, we are encouraged to call people on their behavior when they’re acting like jerks. As I’m not allowed to use the word that springs immediately to mind when I think of you, I’ll have to settle for “jerk.”

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/86 "2005-05-27T17:48:06Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Thanks!! My goat-ass hat is quite fetching!
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> (see)

You do realize I am on your side in all this. Besides for a Pitting this isn’t going to bad for you. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/87 "2005-05-27T17:48:37Z")

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> [@UrbanChic](#):
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> Are you saying Maureen has balls, and big ones at that?

Woman, I do not care how many issues we disagree on. I still think you kick ass. 🆒

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/88 "2005-05-27T17:54:40Z")

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I was sincerely hoping you wouldn’t be offened by my 14 year-old-boy sense of humor. I mean, come one, dude said ‘man-baggage’. I’m _still_ giggling over here!

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/89 "2005-05-27T17:55:37Z")

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Stop. Stop. You’re making my stomach hurt.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/90 "2005-05-27T18:09:14Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Woman, I do not care how many issues we disagree on. I still think you kick ass. 🆒

Yeah sure…now if I had said it…

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/91 "2005-05-27T20:52:29Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> \<snip\>Look…you obviously have a lot of man-baggage that has absolutely nothing with me occassional being a jerk anonymously. \<snip\>

Yeah, she’s probably on the rag, too.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/92 "2005-05-27T20:55:51Z")

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Sorry, I forgot my rolleyes smiley. Cause, you know, **Maureen** and a bunch of other posters (including me) being tired of your sexist act couldn’t possibly have anything to do with you.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/93 "2005-05-27T22:26:09Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> BTW, **ellis dee** , the links I posted were only the threads **msmith** has posted to in the last six months or so.

Hello, McFly? As I already stated, in a point by point post, I don’t see the misogyny in those links. So if I’m to take you at your word, he’s been a good boy for the last 6 months. Hardly a compelling argument.

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> There is a very long list, and I’d be happy to provide more, but something tells me that no matter how many examples I put forth, I’m going to hear “oh, that’s out of context, it was a joke, you took it wrong, yadayadayada.”

Ah, so I’m beyond reason, am I? Funny, I was just thinking the same thing about you.

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> For the most part, I ignore it when someone is being a jerk. I pitted him because this attitude and these posts have been consistent for the past two years. It is not the only thing he posts about. But when he posts about relationships or women, he is always derogatory.

Really? Always? Consistent? And yet I disagree with your evidence, so in my eyes, you are guilty of being disingenuous, exagerating, or are simply being willfully deceitful. I don’t need a long list. Just a few would suffice. Please, provide evidence. But apparently it’s going to all be from longer than 6 months ago. Hold a grudge much?

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> Oh, and you may want to actually read more content than the OP. **urban chic** may have poked at **msmith’s** username, but she’s been supportive of him throughout the entire thread.

I don’t give a fuck who’s defending whom; I’ll call out behavior from anybody. Whereas you, OTOH, seem to take the same message differently depending on who posts it.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/94 "2005-05-28T17:52:51Z")

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I stumbled across this thread and just thought of the irony of it all. I used to know **msmith537** in real life because we worked together. In fact, I believe that he found this board because he saw me reading it at work. The irony was that the company we worked for was one of the “100 Best Companies for Working Mothers” and women in general in America. We were surrounded by females from the higher ups to the lower downs. I certainly don’t remember **msmith537** having any trouble relating to any of them on a professional or even a friendly level. It sure is easy to create a new personality for someone on a message board in your own mine based on a few comments. I am about as pro-female as a male can be and I can even see some truth in some of the comments.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/95 "2005-05-28T18:05:43Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I am about as pro-female as a male can be…

What the hell does that mean?

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/96 "2005-05-28T18:17:07Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> What the hell does that mean?

In my case, it means that I was raised by my mother, have one of those “independent women” for a wife, one daughter, and another daughter about to be born in less than two weeks. I didn’t know that I was going to have a write a dissertation on my upbringing and political and social views in order to explain it.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/97 "2005-05-28T18:43:10Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> In my case, it means that I was raised by my mother, have one of those “independent women” for a wife, one daughter, and another daughter about to be born in less than two weeks. I didn’t know that I was going to have a write a dissertation on my upbringing and political and social views in order to explain it.

Wow, so you’ve got female relatives. Bully for you. So have plenty of misogynists, in case you hadn’t noticed.

I’m not saying you are one, only that using the term “pro-female” and pointing to the fact that you have a mother, a wife, and daughters does not, by itself, constitute much evidence of anything.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/98 "2005-05-28T18:59:51Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Wow, so you’ve got female relatives. Bully for you. So have plenty of misogynists, in case you hadn’t noticed.
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> I’m not saying you are one, only that using the term “pro-female” and pointing to the fact that you have a mother, a wife, and daughters does not, by itself, constitute much evidence of anything.

I find it doubtful I could “prove” such a thing if I tried. I was simply providing background details that may support it much like an author might do in literature.

**msmith537** isn’t a misogynist. People here are simply trying to create an embellished and fictionalized version of an abstract character that is.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/99 "2005-05-28T19:11:12Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> **msmith537** isn’t a misogynist. People here are simply trying to create an embellished and fictionalized version of an abstract character that is.

The problem is that you citing your personal acquaintance with him really doesn’t actually change very much. People on this message board only know him by what he writes here, and can really only judge him based on what they read.

In this thread, there are some who believe that his writings on this message board suggest that he’s a misogynist; there are others who are defending him from the charge, based on their own reading of his posts. But, whomever you agree with, the fact is that a member of a forum such as this must be judged by what they say on that forum, not based on some third party reference who happened to work with him some time ago.

By the way, there’s absolutely no “irony” in the fact that you and **msmith537** used to work for “one of the ‘100 Best Companies for Working Mothers’ and women in general in America.” It’s completely irrelevant; you don’t get credit by association just because you happened to work for a company that treats women well. There is absolutely no necessary correlation between that fact and **msmith** ’s own beliefs about women.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/100 "2005-05-28T19:27:00Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> By the way, there’s absolutely no “irony” in the fact that you and **msmith537** used to work for “one of the ‘100 Best Companies for Working Mothers’ and women in general in America.” It’s completely irrelevant; you don’t get credit by association just because you happened to work for a company that treats women well. There is absolutely no necessary correlation between that fact and **msmith** ’s own beliefs about women.

Why not? Academics analyze an author’s background all the time to understand his or her writings and motivations. **msmith537’s** writings were being critiqued so I decided to share that little tidbit of background that was directly relevant to the way that I read the selected quotes.

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