# msmith537, What is your major malfunction? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333 "2005-05-24T21:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/121 "2005-05-31T04:15:08Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Ellis, **msmith’s** comments in [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6097130&postcount=32) were direct insults to a specific poster, and attempt to portray her as an embodiment of the stereotype she claimed did not apply to her. I **might** give **msmith** a pass on some of his other posts, with his comments in **Happy Scrappy** ’s recent thread specifically excluded, but the post I linked crossed a line. You thought his jokes in the joke thread crossed the line? As in, you thought they were serious statements, not intended to be jokes? Are you whooshing me? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/122 "2005-05-31T04:16:15Z")
I thought they had an uncalled-for nasty tone, since they were directed at a specific poster. Putting words in her mouth, and all. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/123 "2005-05-31T04:43:06Z")
And how was it different from the contributions of [post=6097332]Priceguy[/post], [post=6097862]Shodan[/post], and [post=6097925]Happy Scrappy Hero Pup[/post]? Thanks for making me reread that thread, btw, because I still find it funny as hell. I note that the end of it was an a group of women posters chiming in that they thought the thread was funny and not offensive at all. I’m guessing they aren’t the same posters in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/124 "2005-05-31T05:06:34Z")
> [@UrbanChic](#): > > Come on! Those were fuckin’ hilarious. Seriously. Did you not find those funny _at all_? I guess I just don’t see it. Mind you, this is coming from a person that cracks misogynistic jokes all the time. I laughed my ass off at Family Guy when Peter said “Of course a man made it, its not a delicious turkey dinner”. However when you make fun of someone in a way that they clearly dislike then it isn’t funny and is just mean. For example if you complained that people made fun of you for being Jewish it would be really fucking rude and meanspirited to crack a covetous Jew joke two minutes later. That doesn’t mean all Jew jokes are inappropiate or that I find Cartman offensive. When I detect a latent intent of mean-spirited insulting jokes are just not funny. That post goes beyond latent and is just screaming mean-spirited assholishness. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/125 "2005-05-31T05:14:04Z")
> [@Ellis Dee](#): > > And how was it different from the contributions of [post=6097332]Priceguy[/post], [post=6097862]Shodan[/post], and [post=6097925]Happy Scrappy Hero Pup[/post]? > > Thanks for making me reread that thread, btw, because I still find it funny as hell. I note that the end of it was an a group of women posters chiming in that they thought the thread was funny and not offensive at all. I’m guessing they aren’t the same posters in this thread. They were using the format of the thread to strike at \*\* Elysian \*\*'s argument not attack her personally. Shodan included a 😃 at the end of the post so it was clear he was joking. To me it is much less clear that \*\* msmith \*\* was joking and to me appears that he is being at least somewhat meanspirited. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/126 "2005-05-31T05:14:37Z")
> [@Ellis Dee](#): > > And how was it different from the contributions of [post=6097332]Priceguy[/post], [post=6097862]Shodan[/post], and [post=6097925]Happy Scrappy Hero Pup[/post]? I didn’t like that either. When people keep ganging up on someone and telling them they can’t take a joke, it’s not a joke. And, what **treis** said. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/127 "2005-05-31T05:18:08Z")
> [@treis](#): > > However when you make fun of someone in a way that they clearly dislike then it isn’t funny and is just mean. For example if you complained that people made fun of you for being Jewish it would be really fucking rude and meanspirited to crack a covetous Jew joke two minutes later. That doesn’t mean all Jew jokes are inappropiate or that I find Cartman offensive. Well, the poster on the receiving end of the personal jokes from **four** different posters in that thread pissed all over the harmless joke thread, so I don’t see the response from those **four** posters as out of line. P.S: Did you get my email from a couple days ago, **treis**? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/128 "2005-05-31T05:20:22Z")
You guys are fast; your replies weren’t there when I posted. (I swear!) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/129 "2005-05-31T05:23:03Z")
> [@UrbanChic](#): > > From Rilch’s, oops, I mean _Rilchiam’s_ link:Come on! Those were fuckin’ hilarious. Seriously. Did you not find those funny _at all_? Nope, just…stupid. And they weren’t all that original or clever, either. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/130 "2005-05-31T12:32:14Z")
> [@treis](#): > > I laughed my ass off at Family Guy when Peter said “Of course a man made it, its not a delicious turkey dinner”. Interestingly enough, I had to stop watching _Family Guy_ re-runs on Adult Swim because of Peter. Well, not really because of Peter but more because Lois. How she remains in love with such a boorish, selfish, corpulent moron is really asking me to suspend a bit too much disbelief. Ah well, I still find the lines I quoted pretty fucking funny. To each his own, and all that jazz. ---
**Author:** ![Elysian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c77e96/32.png) [@Elysian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elysian)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/131 "2005-05-31T13:34:41Z")
Gosh, why did it take me so long to come in this thread? I find **msmith** to be hateful. His comments in the thread were personal attacks. I already disliked him before he became so personal, and after that I determined that he is a diseased pustule of a human being. I refused to give him any more of my time or attention. I left that thread because he would have parroted back, like a four-year-old, everything I would say, and I don’t play stupid childish games like that. If people find him funny, that’s okay, because people everywhere find assholes to be funny because they are partly assholes themselves. And now I am done with this thread, and done with _that_ thread, permanently. Go ahead and call me a humorless whining bitch. It can’t touch me because I know the source. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/132 "2005-05-31T13:36:59Z")
> [@Elysian](#): > > Gosh, why did it take me so long to come in this thread? Poor technique? ---
**Author:** ![Elysian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c77e96/32.png) [@Elysian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elysian)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/133 "2005-05-31T13:41:24Z")
Now, _that_ was funny, **Finn** dear. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/134 "2005-05-31T13:50:51Z")
See, I find his jokes to be the equivalent of “yo mama!” If you really want to make over the top, satirical misogynist jests, go all the way. Like, “Woman are evil whores whose only purpose should be sex slaves and maids. Chain 'em up in the kitchen in nothing but heels and an apron, fuck 'em and beat em. Yup.” Or just, whatever. Otherwise, the guy sounds like a rerun of “Live at the Improv!” from 1992. It’s been done. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/135 "2005-05-31T14:10:15Z")
> [@Elysian](#): > > Go ahead and call me a humorless whining bitch. Somehow I don’t think that means what I think it means… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/136 "2005-05-31T14:27:55Z")
> [@Elysian](#): > > If people find him funny, that’s okay, because people everywhere find assholes to be funny because they are partly assholes themselves. I can’t speak for others in the thread, but this is true for me. I still fail to see why people are getting so worked up about msmith537. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/137 "2005-05-31T14:30:52Z")
> [@](#): > > I can’t speak for others in the thread, but this is true for me. What, that you find him funny or that you do so because you’re partly an asshole yourself? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/138 "2005-05-31T14:35:40Z")
Both. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/139 "2005-05-31T14:50:39Z")
> [@UrbanChic](#): > > \I still fail to see why people are getting so worked up about msmith537. Because he insists on perpetuating inaccurate, harmful stereotypes. I don’t like it when women bash men, and I don’t like it when men bash women. It doesn’t contribute anything to the world. And for the record, I try _not_ to be an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/140 "2005-05-31T15:49:30Z")
> [@Ellis Dee](#): > > I tend to respond more reasonably to more reasonable posts. Now, I’m not blameless in our little flame escalation by a long shot; I’d say we both amped up the vitriol incrementally in each response. Stipulated. As previously mentioned in a different thread, I have a bad habit of not backing away from pissing contests. I’ll try to not find offense where none is meant. However, I still believe that in **msmith’s** case, offense is meant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333.md?page=8)