# msmith537, What is your major malfunction? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333 "2005-05-24T21:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/161 "2005-06-01T20:01:08Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Maureen - Get over it. It’s been 4 pages already. You failed to make your case and I’m not going anywhere anyway so stop wasting your and everyone elses time. :dubious: She’s not wasting _my \* time, because I agree with her. You do_ come across \* as a misogynistic asshole. Whether you are or not in real life is unimportant on the message boards. I’m not \*offended \* by you, I don’t even know you, but yeah, sure…I’d be wary of you in real life. And I usually ignore your posts (not the ignore list, just by myself). I feel like \*\*Maureen \*\* is getting unfairly jumped in this thread. I just wanted to let her know there is at least one other female who agrees with her. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/162 "2005-06-01T20:06:02Z")
And another one, **Anaamika**. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/163 "2005-06-01T20:55:16Z")
Make that three. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/164 "2005-06-01T21:04:30Z")
Thanks, **Anaamika**. You too, **Guin**. But honestly, that post of **msmith’s** is one of a few of his I don’t take seriously. I’m not wasting anyone’s time, chucklehead. Everyone who has posted here has done so because they wanted to. I’m not the only person (male or female) who feels you should ratchet back some of the blatant sexism in your posts. You construe it that way because it suits your purpose to not change your habits. _shrug_ Up to you. But I’d advise you to be prepared to defend yourself again, because you’ve offended several people. Obviously, I can’t _prove_ to you that I don’t expect men to fall and worship at my feet. But I will say for the record that it’s a patently absurd statement. What I do want, and what I insist on, is respect as a person. Not to be generalized, or lumped in with what you consider to be “normal.” And I will call you on it every time you are thick witted enough to do it. I don’t care how well educated you are. You’re still an ignorant knuckle dragging trog. On preview, thanks to **Rilchiam** , too. **Lonesome Polecat** , do you like Pete’s Wicked Ale? I work not far from the pub. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/165 "2005-06-02T00:32:18Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > **Lonesome Polecat** , do you like Pete’s Wicked Ale? I work not far from the pub. If you mean the brewery, then I’m wicked jealous. Yummy. ---
**Author:** ![gommsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@gommsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gommsn)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/166 "2005-06-02T00:38:58Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Make that three. I’m a male. Worked 35 yrs. in a predominately female workforce. Make that four!!! ---
**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/167 "2005-06-02T10:23:57Z")
> [@gommsn](#): > > Make that four!!! Five… ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/168 "2005-06-02T10:46:36Z")
Ooh Ooh! Me six! Me six! \ These ‘me too’ posts are getting really unoriginal. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/169 "2005-06-02T12:19:10Z")
I agree with **catsix**. What? ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/170 "2005-06-02T13:06:00Z")
Either I’ll die of shock that someone agreed with me, or want to smack you for doing one of those blasted ‘me too’ posts. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/171 "2005-06-02T13:39:00Z")
So this is the post that got **Maureen** all upset. > [@msmith537](#): > > She’ll “let” you go? What are you a fucking child? So basically you guys have now established that your girlfriend has right of first refusal on trips you take with your friends. That will soon escalate into she has right of first refusal on you leaving the house without her. > > The problem is that EVERY woman, if left unchecked will eventually turn “you” and “her” into a “we”. They will resent any activity you do that does not involve her because she cares so much she doesn’t want to be without you and can’t imagine how you can be without her. Soon you will have nothing that is just “yours”. She’ll hate your favorite chair, the fact you go golfing every Sunday, she’ll either always want to come out with you and your friends or she’ll forbid you to go at all. > > There’s a type of guy who once he has a girlfriend, his shit just falls apart. His friends never see him again. He basically spends all his time with her because God forbid she gets upset and he get’s put in the “doghouse”. What’s the worse she can do? Break up with you? Withhold sex? I’m sorry, but all the arrows slung at **msmith537** appear to be over the top, and posters are trying to read into what he has to say without really examining the context. For example in the first line where he asks HSHP if he is a fucking child, he gets chided for a personal attack. A clear reading can only suggest that this is no attack at all but a characterization of how HSHP is being treated by the gf. Unfortunately this will go into the record as a warning and be used against him in the future. A reading of the second paragraph lists experiences that a lot of guys can relate to. Perhaps his choice of the word “EVERY” set off some alarm bells but I certainly didn’t take it as a problem. Relationships and marriage are successful when they are in ballance. Considering roughly 50% of marriages end in divorce, it would suggest that a majority of marriages are not in ballance. A man who allows his SO to dominate will be dominated. That also works in reverse. Lets face it, our SOs are never exactly the way we want them to be. We will all test our power in the relationship, and if we can gain control to influence our immediate environment, we will. **msmith** was posting man to man. It was not incumbant upon him to expand this concept into a broader thesis. The situation that HSHP finds himself in is quite alarming and he was responded to by **msmith** in a manner to wake him up. The final paragraph speaks to me as well. In my early single years I had a gorgeous girlfriend who treated me like shit. I didn’t quite realize it at the time, but I was so afraid of losing her that we did everything she wanted to do. I was very insecure. I know a lot of married men. Loss of independance seems to be very common. Its joked about quite often. My wife hates my favourite chair and is always uncomfortable when I go out with the guys. But she still _lets_ me and I still have my favourite chair. God but I do love her ! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/172 "2005-06-02T15:35:04Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > \A reading of the second paragraph lists experiences that a lot of guys can relate to. Perhaps his choice of the word “EVERY” set off some alarm bells but I certainly didn’t take it as a problem. **msmith** makes it a habit to make sweeping generalizations about women like that. It wasn’t the first time; maybe it will be the last. > [@](#): > > \ **msmith** was posting man to man. It was not incumbant upon him to expand this concept into a broader thesis. The situation that HSHP finds himself in is quite alarming and he was responded to by **msmith** in a manner to wake him up. Too bad about all those pesky women that read these boards too? > [@](#): > > \I know a lot of married men. Loss of independance seems to be very common. Its joked about quite often. My wife hates my favourite chair and is always uncomfortable when I go out with the guys. But she still _lets_ me and I still have my favourite chair. God but I do love her ! I note you say it’s very common, but you don’t say it happens to every single man who has ever gotten married. And you have my sympathy if you really mean that your wife “lets” you go out with the guys (I note the italics - I don’t care much for the idea of anybody “letting” another adult do anything). There are better-balanced relationships in the world, even if you and **msmith** haven’t seen them yet. Oh, and all you guys who are numbering yourselves - you have to increase it by at least one, because I said I was 100% behind **Maureen** in this pitting back on page three, I think it was. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/173 "2005-06-02T16:05:10Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > \Perhaps his choice of the word “EVERY” set off some alarm bells but I certainly didn’t take it as a problem.\ I took it as a problem. In fact, that single word is probably responsible for this entire pitting. Had msmith said “some,” “a lot of,” “many,” or pretty much any other qualifier, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Yes, many women are like that, and it’s okay to say so. But I’ve worked very hard at NOT being one of them, and I strongly resent anyone lumping me in with them. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/174 "2005-06-02T17:49:06Z")
Wooo!! Woooooo!!! Me NINE!!! Oh…I thought we were playing a game. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/175 "2005-06-02T19:07:51Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Wooo!! Woooooo!!! Me NINE!!! > > Oh…I thought we were playing a game. We are: Whack-A-Mole. You’re the mole. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/176 "2005-06-02T19:32:14Z")
> [@](#): > > Perhaps his choice of the word “EVERY” set off some alarm bells but I certainly didn’t take it as a problem , well no shit sherlock. add the fact (contextually at that) that he _chose_ to emphasize the word by capitalizing the word, and we can reasonably conclude that he meant every. single. one. hence a justifiable pitting. Signed, yet another female who doesn’t do that shit and resents being lumped in with nimrods who do. ---
**Author:** ![Jillyvn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Jillyvn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jillyvn)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/177 "2005-06-03T02:22:05Z")
Just wanted to chime in and voice my support for BOTH sides on this one. He IS being a woman hating asshole in most of his posts, after reading them. On the other hand, I have know far too many women who represent the qualities he’s pitting, hence my lack of many female friends. Perhaps this is all solved by qualification? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/178 "2005-06-04T16:28:44Z")
**Rebekkah’s** a thread-kill-er! **Rebekkah’s** a thread-kill-er! {taunting OFF} Oh. Wait a second… ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/179 "2005-06-07T01:11:09Z")
Just came in here to get the last word ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msmith537-what-is-your-major-malfunction/305333/180 "2005-06-07T01:34:24Z")
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