# MSNBC Poll: Impeach Bush! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 11, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969 "2006-11-11T02:32:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/21 "2006-11-11T04:29:32Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] (And I am not bothering with the poll, but is there any provision/software lock that prevents individuals from posting more than once?) [/QUOTE] Appears to be - I voted (for the middle one, by the way) and when I returned, the page simply showed the results again. It may be based on the IP; I could try from work tomorrow. I’m sorry, **elucidator** , I have no idea how this is supposed to be meaningful in any way. Even for a self-selected internet poll, it’s pretty bad. And, if you “click to learn more”, they state that their poll is full of shit, comparing it to one they did on Clinton-Lewinsky, when 73% thought Clinton should resign. It is certainly _possible_ that Bush could wind up being impeached; even as late as the spring of 1973, nobody thought it could happen to Nixon. But it would take a Nixonesque avalanche of evidence for that to happen. One can only hope. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/22 "2006-11-11T04:30:06Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] You might want to examine that “reasonable” thing and emulate it, someday. [/QUOTE] Yeah, right. Do you always carry Elucidator’s water for him? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/23 "2006-11-11T04:32:24Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Yeah, right. Do you always carry Elucidator’s water for him? [/QUOTE] If you’d actually read my post (which I know is difficult for you…big words and all) you’d see that I DON’T carry **luci** ’s water. I’m disagreeing with him on both the significance of the poll and the need for immediate impeachment proceedings. But then, I didn’t expect that you’d actually read my post. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/24 "2006-11-11T04:33:33Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Yeah, right. Do you always carry Elucidator’s water for him? [/QUOTE] I feel fairly certain that the set of posters who always agree with **elucidator** and the set of posters who agree that you are a numbskull are not congruent. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/25 "2006-11-11T04:35:37Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] And my dependent question: how do we know this is nuts if nobody else has asked the question? Has anyone? [/QUOTE] There’ve been a couple scientific polls on impeaching Bush: [January 2006:](http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2) > [@](#): > > By a margin of 52% to 43%, Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he wiretapped American citizens without a judge’s approval [October 2005:](http://democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-1) > [@](#): > > By a margin of 50% to 44%, Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he lied about the war in Iraq This MSNBC poll strikes me as strongly skewed towards impeachment for there **not** to be a fair amount of support for it. I can’t think of any reason that support for impeaching Bush would have _decreased_ dramatically over the past year, can anyone? Plus, MSNBC is a vanilla political site, and of the lefty sites I frequent only [Wonkette](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/) is guiding voters to the poll. On the other hand, I did vote _twice_, so others could do that too. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/26 "2006-11-11T04:37:16Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] But then, I didn’t expect that you’d actually read my post. [/QUOTE] I read your post. Next time you might try including some substance in your posts. Warmest personal regards, Carol ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/27 "2006-11-11T04:40:48Z")
Not even an Aquarius, so far as I know… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/28 "2006-11-11T04:42:45Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] I read your post. Next time you might try including some substance in your posts. Warmest personal regards, Carol [/QUOTE] Don’t blame my posts just because their substance has a hard time finding any of same behind your eyes to interact with… ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/29 "2006-11-11T04:48:01Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Don’t blame my posts just because their substance has a hard time finding any of same behind your eyes to interact with… [/QUOTE] Cite? What of substance have you posted, other than Carol Stream is a poopy-head? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/30 "2006-11-11T04:49:16Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] I read your post. [/quote] You couldn’t have, or you wouldn’t have said this: > [@](#): > > Next time you might try including some substance in your posts. You don’t consider this substance? > [@jayjay](#): > > Which is not to say that I personally put any trust in this poll. It’s an online poll, and those are, pretty much without exception, scientifically invalid. Online polls have a self-selected sample, which buggers the numbers all to hell. There IS a reason that professional poll-takers sample randomly… Which basically agrees with what you complimented **tomndebb** for saying. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/31 "2006-11-11T04:50:32Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Cite? What of substance have you posted, other than Carol Stream is a poopy-head? [/QUOTE] _points to **Frank** ’s post above…_ ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/32 "2006-11-11T04:55:02Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Cite? What of substance have you posted, other than Carol Stream is a poopy-head? [/QUOTE] Where did he call you a poopy-head? I called you a numbskull; perhaps you are confusing the usernames, and the insult. An easy mistake for a numbskull. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/33 "2006-11-11T04:55:29Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] You don’t consider this substance? [/QUOTE] I don’t consider people who engage in 2nd grade name-calling at all. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/34 "2006-11-11T04:57:08Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Well, newest Firefucks hasn’t crashed in five whole minutes. [/QUOTE] Really? I should restart it and see, though **Duffer** told me to never believe anything you say. 😉 Oh, and though **Carol Stream** may or may not be a poopy head, it’s a nice town in a generic suburb from the late-60s way, though after 30 years here I still mix it up with Glendale Heights. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/35 "2006-11-11T04:58:50Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] I don’t consider people who engage in 2nd grade name-calling at all. [/QUOTE] When did I call you a name?! At no point, in any of my posts directed to you, did I call you _anything_. I didn’t even use your username! You’re delusional. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/36 "2006-11-11T04:59:50Z")
[QUOTE=dropzone] Oh, and though **Carol Stream** may or may not be a poopy head, it’s a nice town in a generic suburb from the late-60s way, though after 30 years here I still mix it up with Glendale Heights. 😃 [/QUOTE] There’s a town named poopy-head? ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/37 "2006-11-11T05:00:33Z")
[QUOTE=dropzone] Really? I should restart it and see, though **Duffer** told me to never believe anything you say. 😉 Oh, and though **Carol Stream** may or may not be a poopy head, it’s a nice town in a generic suburb from the late-60s way, though after 30 years here I still mix it up with Glendale Heights. 😃 [/QUOTE] Sir, I am not Glendale Heights! The nerve of some people! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/38 "2006-11-11T05:01:02Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] I don’t consider people who engage in 2nd grade name-calling at all. [/QUOTE] Cite for the second grade name-calling, please. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/39 "2006-11-11T05:02:29Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Sir, I am not Glendale Heights! The nerve of some people! 😛 [/QUOTE] See?! He called you a worse name than I did! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969/40 "2006-11-11T05:02:58Z")
Hmmm, my computer hasn’t caught fire and Firefucks seemed to boot a little faster than it used to. And I forgot–I was watching “TRON” tonite and a daughter asked about video game parlors and Carol Stream contains/contained Galaxy World, the arcade I used to play TRON at. In other words, online polls are worthless. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbc-poll-impeach-bush/379969.md?page=3)