# MSNBC's Savage Nation is no more!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 7, 2003, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846 "2003-07-07T20:22:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/1 "2003-07-07T20:22:28Z")

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[MSNBC fires Michael Savage after anti-gay comments](http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-07-07-talk-host-fired_x.htm)  
According to MSNBC spokesman Jeremy Gaines, Savage’s comments (below) were “extremely inappropriate”…

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> Oh, you’re one of the sodomites! You should only get AIDS and die, you pig! How’s that? [off-screen crew can be heard shouting “Whoa!”] Why don’t you see if you can sue me, you pig? You got nothing better than to put me down, you piece of garbage? You got nothing to do today? Go eat a sausage and choke on it. Get trichinosis. OK, do we have another nice caller who’s busy and didn’t have a nice night in the bathhouses, angry at me today? Huh? Get me another one, put another sodomite on! No more calls? I don’t care. Let’s go to the next scene. I don’t care about these bums, they mean nothing to me. They’re all sausages.

See the video at [GLAAD](http://www.glaad.org/).

It’s about fucking time.

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/2 "2003-07-07T20:36:29Z")

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I watched the video on GLAAD’s site. I’m having a hard time hearing what the caller said to Savage to set him off like that. All I caught was, “I need to suggest that Don and Mike …” Then he said something about Savage’s teeth, I think.

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**Author:** ![Tradnor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cab0a1/32.png) [@Tradnor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tradnor)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/3 "2003-07-07T20:39:34Z")

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I suppose the people at MSNBC had never listened to his radio show if they didn’t expect something like this. His outburst isn’t surprising at all. It’s perfectly in line with the venom he spews out daily.

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/4 "2003-07-07T20:44:13Z")

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Even his radio show may be on the way out. His show was pulled from the New York (the #1 market) affiliate due to a contract dispute.

I’m a die hard conservative, but that guy is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there. I couldn’t listen to him for more than 15 minutes without constantly thinking to myself “…and this guy has a Ph.D.?”

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/5 "2003-07-07T20:45:15Z")

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Didn’t MSNBC know what this guy was like when they hired him? He makes Bill O’Reilly look like Barbara Streisand. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I can’t understand why anybody listens to this guy.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/6 "2003-07-07T20:51:35Z")

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You think the show is bad? I read his book, a nonstop racist, homophobic, misogynist diatribe.

Dude needs therapy.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/7 "2003-07-07T20:52:10Z")

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Who is Michael Savage and why is he being an asshole?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/8 "2003-07-07T20:53:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by zev\_steinhardt \*  
> \*\*Even his radio show may be on the way out. His show was pulled from the New York (the #1 market) affiliate due to a contract dispute.
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> I’m a die hard conservative, but that guy is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there. I couldn’t listen to him for more than 15 minutes without constantly thinking to myself “…and this guy has a Ph.D.?”
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> Zev Steinhardt \*\*

Mengele was a doctor too, **Zev**. Education, unfortunately, does not seem to be a prophylactic against bigotry.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/9 "2003-07-07T20:56:37Z")

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Damnation. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/10 "2003-07-07T21:07:08Z")

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I think I had a month. Did he last that long?

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/11 "2003-07-07T21:08:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by World Eater \*  
> \*\*Who is Michael Savage and why is he being an asshole? \*\*

Apparently somebody who [dreams](http://www.paulreveresociety.com/) about feeling up Barbra Streisand. (scroll down)

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**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/12 "2003-07-07T21:15:31Z")

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What a disgusting, ugly, pathetic comment. Ugh!

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**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/13 "2003-07-07T21:33:20Z")

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I’m looking forward to hearing his radio show tonight. I wonder what he’ll have to say about this…

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/14 "2003-07-07T21:36:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by beagledave \*  
> \*\*Apparently somebody who [dreams](http://www.paulreveresociety.com/) about feeling up Barbra Streisand. (scroll down) \*\*

Ok. For starters, is he a right wing asshole with a radio show?

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**Author:** ![Tasha\_Yar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@Tasha\_Yar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tasha_Yar)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/15 "2003-07-07T21:37:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by beagledave \*  
> \*\*Apparently somebody who [dreams](http://www.paulreveresociety.com/) about feeling up Barbra Streisand. (scroll down) \*\*

Judging from that site, he’s a complete nut job. What’s with the creepy poorly photoshopped faces at the top?

Right winger Cal Thomas criticised MSNBC for even hiring the troglodyte in the first place (around the time of the Ashleigh Banfield bashing incident). Seems Savage can make even the most conservative traditionalist cringe.

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/16 "2003-07-07T21:38:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*Mengele was a doctor too, **Zev**. Education, unfortunately, does not seem to be a prophylactic against bigotry. \*\*

I know that. I was actually referring to the fact that he didn’t sound particularly educated.

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/17 "2003-07-07T21:40:18Z")

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Is he the guy I saw advertised on “Hot Talk” in the SF Bay Area? I remember seeing a TV commercial for some really overheated guy talking about how talk radio is the last bastion of something-or-other, and how he knows what he’s talking about because he’s written 20 books (of course, if they’re all shitty books, they don’t prove anything).

At least we still have “Savage Love”!

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/18 "2003-07-07T21:41:31Z")

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I honestly think the man is psychotic. Good riddance!

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**Author:** ![Chief\_Crunch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@Chief\_Crunch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Crunch)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/19 "2003-07-07T21:45:46Z")

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Holy shit. What an asshole. I remember hearing his name on here a few times as being “anti-gay” but I didn’t realize the full extent of it.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msnbcs-savage-nation-is-no-more/186846/20 "2003-07-07T21:48:59Z")

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**World Eater** ,  
Yes Savage is a right wing radio show host but even by right wing radio standards he’s out there. He’s pretty much openly racist, misogynist and homophobic. He can fairly be called a hate-monger without hyperbole. He makes Rush Limbaugh look like a reasoned moderate.

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