# MSU v U of M

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 16, 2000, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188 "2000-10-16T23:39:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/21 "2000-10-17T14:31:16Z")

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\*\* Bunny Girl \*\* - hey, you and my son are co-workers! (he works for the concessions department - so if you buy an overpriced plate of nacho’s at the Ag Pavillion, look for a tall kid with a ring in his left eyebrow)

Didn’t look at the riot site at the time (didn’t want to recognize anyone), but do know some of the lawyers defending some of the folks.

Plan to seriously avoid the EL area on Saturday. how about you???

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**Author:** ![BunnyGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@BunnyGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyGirl)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/22 "2000-10-17T15:21:53Z")

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Upon the advice of my lawyer, I will not be in the EL area. (Just kidding).

I’ll be working at the Entomology Department. For having grown up in Lansing and etc, I don’t know where anything on campus is located. Hmmm, tall kid with ring in left eyebrow - that should whittle the list down to, what? only 10-12,000 students at State? 😉

Maybe we should have a Lansing Doper festival (eh, yeah, all three of us!)- We could all meet at Bennigan’s in Okemos or something.

Any other Lansing area dopers out there?

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/23 "2000-10-17T15:26:04Z")

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if you like hot spicey food, the Bangkok House at the corner of Cedar and Saginaw is well worth the trip.

Caution: order your meal “mild”, even if you really like hot and spicey. I go for “medium” myself, and am really used to the heat.

yea, he’s one of a ‘few’ with a piercing.  
can’t help you out on how to get around on campus - my directions were always “cut through the library…”

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**Author:** ![RalfCoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RalfCoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RalfCoder)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/24 "2000-10-17T18:29:46Z")

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Hi, BunnyGirl - welcome to MSU! Please leave your car at the edge of campus - there’s no room for it here in the central part any more!!

I’m a 5 minute walk from Nat Sci in the Admin bldg, next to the library. (I think I saw wring cut thru there yesterday) Give a yell, I’ll treat you and wring to wings at BW3 or nachos at El Az.

little\*bit: would the Virgin Vault be anywhere near the Virgin Isles? Maybe the name has changed over the years.

“On the banks of the Red Cedar…”

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/25 "2000-10-17T18:36:34Z")

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\*\* Ralf \*\* and, how appropriate this will be:

1. thanks for the lunch, I avoid el ez ever since the food poisoning episode I had from there in 88.

2. happy to join you else where

3. (from the other thread), it’s difficult to tell, but I’m a mommy not a daddy.

Virgin Isles? aka Camp-bell et al? (lived in Camp Bell for a year, and other north end dorms for the rest of the time. lovely part of campus). I know eggs-actly where the admin building is!!! (not a good cut through building tho)

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/26 "2000-10-17T19:37:08Z")

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_Idly filing her nails at her desk at the U of Michigan_

Keep talking Sparty fans, keep talking…

_smiles to herself_

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**Author:** ![BunnyGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@BunnyGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyGirl)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/27 "2000-10-17T19:57:40Z")

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Wring and Ralf, I am SO into lunch with y’all! Let’s plan it! I’ll do a post when I get started at the Bug Dept and update my new email address on my profile then we can plan lunch.

I am TOTALLY into Bangkok House - that place rules.

And, no, I’m not the airhead I sound like. 😉

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/28 "2000-10-17T20:06:35Z")

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My home is Kansas but I lived and worked in East Lansing for three years and loved it. So here’s my two cent’s

“I’m going to Ann Arbor I’ll be one more horse’s ass,  
I used to be intelligent, but that’s all in the past,  
So paste a tail on my nose and point me toward the grass,  
I’m going to Ann Arbor I’ll be one more horses ass!”

And in a slight aside the best bagels in the area are from the Bagel Haul Deli, in Haslett and now in East Lansing I believe.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/29 "2000-10-17T20:06:57Z")

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hey \*\* Cranky \*\* keep filing - after all, we up here in \*\*Sparty land \*\* obviously favor academics over the football program…

\*\* Bunny & Rolf \*\* lunch’s be cool, need about a weeks notice, generally NOT Mondays (I go out to the county jail those days) the folks at Bangkok know me as “Pa-nang, Chicken medium”.

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**Author:** ![little\_bit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@little\_bit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/little_bit)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/30 "2000-10-17T21:13:54Z")

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> _Originally posted by RalfCoder \*  
> little_bit: would the Virgin Vault be anywhere near the Virgin Isles? Maybe the name has changed over the years.

The Virgin Vault…Yakeley/Gilchrist Hall

I can’t believe they would rename the only all-girls dorms on campus.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/31 "2000-10-17T21:27:58Z")

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Dear Michigan State University,

Please beat Michigan this weekend, due to circumstances outside of our control the standings in the conference are incorrect. A victory this week would be one step towards normalizing the situation. Thank you for your concern.

Sincerely,

The University of Illinois.

BTW, little\*bit, let me just say I’m very glad to hear you are a _former_ resident of said Vault. 😉

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/32 "2000-10-17T21:28:28Z")

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\*\* littlebit\*\* the issue isn’t renaming, it’s time.

Back in the really, really old days, when I was a student (my student number was 6 digits) , the entire north circle set of dorms was all female (except for Williams hall which was the only non food dorm on campus and you had to be at least a sophomore to get in there). So, my reference to Camp-bell, which, along with Landon and the two you mention were also all girl dorms back in the times before dinos.

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**Author:** ![little\_bit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@little\_bit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/little_bit)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/33 "2000-10-17T21:34:02Z")

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> _Originally posted by Omniscient \*  
> BTW, little_bit, let me just say I’m very glad to hear you are a _former_ resident of said Vault. 😉 \*\*

Omni, if I was still a college student living in the dorms _ **and** _ a virgin at the age of 27 I think I’d have bigger concerns than who wins this weekend. 😃

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/34 "2000-10-17T21:48:59Z")

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Yeah, they might be more pressing concerns, but unlike the football game, you and I would have plenty of control over rectifying the situation. \<eg\>

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**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/35 "2000-10-17T22:30:18Z")

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Since I have certified and stamped pieces of paper from **both** Michigan and Michigan State, the team I pull for tends to change from year-to-year, based on a complex formula known only to myself (but which includes past records, coaching staff attitudes, home field advantage, and coin-flipping).

Usually, though, I just hope it’s a good game. This position isn’t fence-sitting, just recognition that a competitive game is more fun to watch than, say, Kansas State versus Saint Mary’s All-Girl Junior High Powder Puff second team (just to pick a random example).

Hey, and **wring** :

1. El Az isn’t so sketchy since it moved out of the basement . I’ve suffered a couple times from their, uh, iffy sanitation, but it seems they’re more conscientious now. We still eat there, now and again, when we’re in town (which isn’t that often). Of course, I used to stand in line for an hour, Sunday nights, in the winter, just to eat in their basement hole, so maybe I’m stupid.

2. We used to order Bangkok House, too. (This is surprising because we had about five “regular” restaurants we patronized when we lived in Lansing, of which El Az and Bangkok House were two.) First time, I went for “hot”, which I can usually stand no problem. Big mistake! Stuff was so hot it was painful to chew. I took medium after that, which really equals other places’ extra hot. What I can’t believe is that their menu goes to extra-extra-extra hot (or is it extra-extra-extra-extra hot?). Yeesh.

Ah, reminiscing.

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**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2000, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/36 "2000-10-18T00:11:53Z")

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Um, er, well, if you guys do, you know, lunch, um, could I tag along? I’ll be quiet, I promise! 😃

Go State!

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2000, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/37 "2000-10-18T00:15:31Z")

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Fine by me \*\* Persephone \*\*. I started a thread in MSPIS about Lansing MI restaurants, we can discuss where to go there? I’d post the link, but my computer is acting strange (I think it’s seeing some one else), …

and, “you’d be quiet”??? but what’s the fun in that??? 😃

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**Author:** ![RalfCoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RalfCoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RalfCoder)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2000, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/38 "2000-10-18T14:37:46Z")

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wring: Somewhere besides El Az is fine - I’m willing to try Bangkok House if you don’t make me order 3-alarm kimchi the first time out of the gates.

Cranky: our riot team can beat your riot team any day!

BunnyGirl: You’re included in this trip, too. I’ll even drive, so you can save that precious parking spot, if you like.

little\*bit: wring is right, it’s time. The Williams, Landon, Yakely, Gilchrist, et al group of dorms were called the Virgin Isles when I started working here in 1979. I’m sure it’s all just an honest mistake…

Omni: The boys will try, is all I can promise.

Zut: Be brave, go green!

Persephone: You’re welcome to join us, but you better not be quiet. We won’t recognize you!

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**Author:** ![BunnyGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@BunnyGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyGirl)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2000, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/39 "2000-10-18T14:48:36Z")

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Ralf, how did you know I hate to drive?! You’re on!  
Wring - weeks notice is fine. I don’t know what my lunch schedule will be like at the new place, so a weeks notice will forfend any troubles with advanced warning!  
Pers-of course you can come, sugar! What a question! Maybe we’ll be able to show of our “great deals” we got when we go shopping next weekend!

Have y’all seen the bumper sticker around town with Gore, Bush crossed out and Izzo written in?

I’ve not had any problems with El Az but I don’t eat there alot. there’s a place downtown here called “Jalapeno’s” and they make THE BEST soft corn shredded beef tacos. I’m going to miss them when I move EL. I don’t think they are open any time except lunches either.

I’m a pad thai gal, myself. Mild. (yeah, I’m a wuss!).

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2000, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/msu-v-u-of-m/37188/40 "2000-10-18T15:02:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RalfCoder \*  
> \*\*  
> Cranky: our riot team can beat your riot team any day!
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I’ll concede that point. You could kick the average U-M students’ ass. You’ve got the healthy strapping farm kids. We’ve got the skinny pasty-faced kids from Long Island who drive everywhere in Daddy’s jeep cherokee.

No offense to anyone from Long Island per se–but have you seen the kids you send to U-M? 🙂

I’m a little less willing to bend on the “we’ve got better academics” point, but it’s not worth arguing.

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