# mswas is a trolling hunk of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742 "2008-04-10T07:15:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/1 "2008-04-10T07:15:04Z")
[See for yourself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9672516&postcount=1). Also, he has an imaginary friend… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/2 "2008-04-10T07:21:50Z")
Posts: 6,066 Location: Xenu’s Pair o’ docks There’s something here, but I can’t quite put my finger on it… ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/3 "2008-04-10T08:06:51Z")
Nah, he’s not a troll just like \*\*DS \*\* isn’t a troll. I don’t think either are deliberate controverts. ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/4 "2008-04-10T08:24:46Z")
Coming after all that hard work he’s done in his **DT** Pit Thread to convince us that _he_, **mswas** , is the rational objective one, and his detractors are the ones who use bullshit arguments, this post 6066 seems such a shame. (Tongue partly-in-cheek - I’ve honestly no idea what **mswas** was hoping to achieve in his pit thread) ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/5 "2008-04-10T08:41:28Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] Nah, he’s not a troll just like \*\*DS \*\* isn’t a troll. [/QUOTE] Who, me? (!?!) I have to assume that there’s another **DS** to whom you’re referring, but I’ll be damned (as an atheist ;)) if I know who it is. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/6 "2008-04-10T08:41:57Z")
What do you mean, trolling? I admit that his stance may be a hypothetical one, but it doesn’t seem like a bad foundation for a debate. It’s a fucking sight more civil than most OPs from people with the latest bone to pick with the permanently deluded theists. > [@Argent Towers](#): > > Location: Xenu’s Pair o’ docks > > There’s something here, but I can’t quite put my finger on it… I’m halfway to understanding it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/7 "2008-04-10T09:05:24Z")
[QUOTE=Digital Stimulus] Who, me? (!?!) I have to assume that there’s another **DS** to whom you’re referring, but I’ll be damned (as an atheist ;)) if I know who it is. [/QUOTE] **Der Trihs**. But I guess you knew that, really. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/8 "2008-04-10T09:14:36Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] **Der Trihs**. But I guess you knew that, really. [/QUOTE] Oh, OK. It was your use of **DS** rather than **DT** that threw me. Sorry about that…really, I couldn’t figure it out. Thanks for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/9 "2008-04-10T09:15:38Z")
:smack: It’s been a long day, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/10 "2008-04-10T09:41:44Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] It’s a fucking sight more civil than most OPs from people with the latest bone to pick with the permanently deluded theists. [/QUOTE] Civil language, but quite insulting content. I don’t think it’s trolling; it’s devastating ignorance creating a straw man of egregious proportions. Whether it’s wilful misunderstanding of what he deems to be his “opposition” or otherwise, well, who knows. There are plenty of theistic types who do understand the atheist position, and for that I thank them. **mswas** clearly isn’t one of them. However, since **mswas** states that it’s “only about the way I see it”, then I propose that it isn’t really a debate at all - it’s witnessing (or anti-witnessing) and I guess GD is the correct place for it. ---
**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/11 "2008-04-10T10:49:02Z")
> [@](#): > > **Trolling** > Trolling at a great deal! Trolling on eBay Motors. This is a new Google ad for me… joy! ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/12 "2008-04-10T11:09:38Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] What do you mean, trolling? I admit that his stance may be a hypothetical one, but it doesn’t seem like a bad foundation for a debate. It’s a fucking sight more civil than most OPs from people with the latest bone to pick with the permanently deluded theists. I’m halfway to understanding it. 😉 [/QUOTE] Keep thinking I’ve got it but I can never seem to quite get there. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/13 "2008-04-10T11:15:58Z")
I think he’s saying that atheists have stronger moral character than religious people. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/14 "2008-04-10T11:31:54Z")
[QUOTE=aldiboronti] Keep thinking I’ve got it but I can never seem to quite get there. 🙂 [/QUOTE] At any instant, my understanding is not improving; hence, it never can improve. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/15 "2008-04-10T11:44:56Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] Posts: 6,066 Location: Xenu’s Pair o’ docks There’s something here, but I can’t quite put my finger on it… [/QUOTE] I was wondering about that; is it a joke conflation of Zeno’s paradox with that Xenu guy from Scientology? Anyway, the OP in the other thread seemed like trolling to me; I can’t believe **mswas** is obtuse enough to think his “hypothetical” represents the way atheists really are (unless he’s “debated” atheists for years here without ever actually reading their posts, which I guess is possible). ---
**Author:** ![blinkingblinking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@blinkingblinking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blinkingblinking)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/16 "2008-04-10T11:56:20Z")
[QUOTE=Lobohan] [See for yourself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9672516&postcount=1). Also, he has an imaginary friend… 😃 [/QUOTE] I do not understand the point of this thread. Many people replied to MSWAS’ thread. Some took him seriously, some people thought that he was trying to play ‘devil’s advocate’ and some people saw that he was trolling. Some guy even said he was trolling in GD and got told off for it. Is the only reason you started this thread that you could use the word ‘trolling’ against MSWAS? ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/17 "2008-04-10T12:01:35Z")
[QUOTE=blinkingblinking] I do not understand the point of this thread. [/QUOTE] You answered your own question from what I can see. The OP thinks that **mwas** was trolling and said so in the correct area of the board. This is a perfectly valid thread for a valid reason. The OP may be incorrect but that’s what this thread is for. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/18 "2008-04-10T12:10:16Z")
[QUOTE=Lobohan] [See for yourself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9672516&postcount=1). Also, he has an imaginary friend… 😃 [/QUOTE] I don’t know about ‘troll’. There are some intelligent and articulate religious posters here whom I disagree with. On the other hand, I keep noticing this Triumvirate of Dingdongs (lekatt, kanicbird, mswas), who can be relied upon to crapjack serious discussions of spirituality with their own just-so statements, rambling incoherent rationale, and made-up dreck. So you’re a crappy person who can only get along with society because god tells you to. OK, we get that, we all really get it. Please stop assuming that everyone else shares your lack of restraint and empathy with others. And, true to form ,the post was probably the longest and most elaborate strawman I have ever seen. I wonder how long it took him to set up an effigy just to set it on fire to amuse himself. ---
**Author:** ![blinkingblinking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@blinkingblinking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blinkingblinking)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/19 "2008-04-10T12:14:16Z")
[QUOTE=yojimbo] You answered your own question from what I can see. The OP thinks that **mwas** was trolling and said so in the correct area of the board. This is a perfectly valid thread for a valid reason. The OP may be incorrect but that’s what this thread is for. [/QUOTE] This came in Today, 03:56 PM #18 Lightnin’ Lightnin’ Please, mswas, please don’t become an atheist. Not only would you give the rest of us a bad name, you’re clearly clinically insane if the only thing keeping you from doing evil is the threat of punishment. Either that, or you’re trolling. Which is it? –That was an hour before this Pit thread was started.– And this Today, 02:14 PM Miller Miller You want a baling machine to go with all that straw in the OP? This Today, 01:32 PM #2 You know how religious people always bitch that atheists blame any and all bad things in the world on religion? You’re being that same jerk about the way atheists must view the world. —Sorry I do not know how to properly paste those. So at 1.32 MSWAS was called a jerk. At 2.14 someone said he was deliberately setting up a straw man argument. At 3.56 MSWAS was practically accused of trolling. That is all in GD. This thread just seems like a waste of time. I will not be back. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/20 "2008-04-10T12:30:30Z")
[QUOTE=blinkingblinking] So at 1.32 MSWAS was called a jerk. At 2.14 someone said he was deliberately setting up a straw man argument. At 3.56 MSWAS was practically accused of trolling. That is all in GD. [/quote] They were told to knock the trolling talk off in GD. I fail to see your point. > [@](#): > > This thread just seems like a waste of time. I will not be back. Good. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742.md?page=2)