# mswas is a trolling hunk of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742 "2008-04-10T07:15:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/21 "2008-04-10T12:59:31Z")
[QUOTE=blinkingblinking] This came in Today, 03:56 PM #18 Lightnin’ Lightnin’ Please, mswas, please don’t become an atheist. Not only would you give the rest of us a bad name, you’re clearly clinically insane if the only thing keeping you from doing evil is the threat of punishment. Either that, or you’re trolling. Which is it? –That was an hour before this Pit thread was started.– [/quote] …and should have been in the Pit. > [@](#): > > And this Today, 02:14 PM > Miller Miller > You want a baling machine to go with all that straw in the OP? Not ad hominem - acceptable in GD. > [@](#): > > This Today, 01:32 PM #2 > You know how religious people always bitch that atheists blame any and all bad things in the world on religion? You’re being that same jerk about the way atheists must view the world. Should have been in the Pit. Unlike the two respondents above who broke forum rules, **Lobohan** did the right thing. I’m sorry you find the rules so difficult to understand. > [@](#): > > This thread just seems like a waste of time. I will not be back. Shame, you’re such fun. ---
**Author:** ![the\_PC\_apeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@the\_PC\_apeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_PC_apeman)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/22 "2008-04-10T13:05:33Z")
**mswas** , I have decided to become a theist (hypothetically) just so I can tell you to go to hell. Isn’t that proper place for someone such as yourself who only feigns proper behavior under threat but inwardly truly feels compelled toward evil? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/23 "2008-04-10T13:11:06Z")
Sweet mother of fuck, can we stop calling every post we don’t like an act of trollery? Yes, the thread in question was vastly ignorant, but he clearly wanted to discuss the subject and was at least somewhat open to debate, seeing as how he opened a thread in GD about it. For fuck’s sake, stop reflexively calling peoples trolls when they post something when it’s simply ignorant or an unpopular opinion. Not everybody is as smart as you are and holds all the popular opinions you do. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/24 "2008-04-10T13:47:22Z")
What \*\*Revtim \*\* said. “Troll” is just becoming a word meaning “someone I think is an asshole” or “someone who posts fucked up opinions”. Can we just call them assholes, or tell them their opinions are fucked up and leave “troll” to its original meaning? ---
**Author:** ![the\_PC\_apeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@the\_PC\_apeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_PC_apeman)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/25 "2008-04-10T13:59:57Z")
I find people like **mswas** and “James from Charleston, MO” (about 1:58 into [this](http://youtube.com/watch?v=CmzF15elro4)) disturbing. “Assholes” or “fucked up” work too. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/26 "2008-04-10T14:06:19Z")
[QUOTE=blinkingblinking] I do not understand the point of this thread. Many people replied to MSWAS’ thread. Some took him seriously, some people thought that he was trying to play ‘devil’s advocate’ and some people saw that he was trolling. Some guy even said he was trolling in GD and got told off for it. Is the only reason you started this thread that you could use the word ‘trolling’ against MSWAS? [/QUOTE] I started this thread because he’s a fucking idiot. Glad I could clarify that for you. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/27 "2008-04-10T14:16:57Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] What \*\*Revtim \*\* said. “Troll” is just becoming a word meaning “someone I think is an asshole” or “someone who posts fucked up opinions”. Can we just call them assholes, or tell them their opinions are fucked up and leave “troll” to its original meaning? [/QUOTE] Dude, reread the OP in that thread. He was constructing a strawman that would scare all the crows out of North America. Those aren’t his opinions, he was by asking the question looking to piss people off. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/28 "2008-04-10T14:24:36Z")
[QUOTE=Revtim] Sweet mother of fuck, can we stop calling every post we don’t like an act of trollery? Yes, the thread in question was vastly ignorant, but he clearly wanted to discuss the subject and was at least somewhat open to debate, seeing as how he opened a thread in GD about it. For fuck’s sake, stop reflexively calling peoples trolls when they post something when it’s simply ignorant or an unpopular opinion. Not everybody is as smart as you are and holds all the popular opinions you do. [/QUOTE] Can we still call it trolling when people use false premises to stir up a debate? Rather than using an honest set of questions, using lies and half-truths to frame the argument isn’t just ignorant, it’s goading. Or are you one of those folks that think people don’t lie, they ‘mispeak’? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/29 "2008-04-10T14:39:10Z")
[QUOTE=kidchameleon] Can we still call it trolling when people use false premises to stir up a debate? Rather than using an honest set of questions, using lies and half-truths to frame the argument isn’t just ignorant, it’s goading. [/QUOTE] If he’s purposely lying, he’s trolling. But in this case, I see no reason believe he’s not simply a truthful idiot. His ignorant-ass OP is pretty typical of what a lot people think about atheism. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/30 "2008-04-10T14:52:26Z")
[QUOTE=Revtim] If he’s purposely lying, he’s trolling. But in this case, I see no reason believe he’s not simply a truthful idiot. His ignorant-ass OP is pretty typical of what a lot people think about atheism. [/QUOTE] **Mswas** has been around these boards quite a while. I just find it hard to believe he or she really thought the OP was an accurate picture of the way atheists think. That would require some amazing density. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/31 "2008-04-10T14:56:03Z")
[QUOTE=Baldwin] **Mswas** has been around these boards quite a while. I just find it hard to believe he or she really thought the OP was an accurate picture of the way atheists think. That would require some amazing density. [/QUOTE] I have no trouble believing in amazing density, especially about what people think of atheism. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/32 "2008-04-10T15:08:22Z")
[QUOTE=jjimm] …and should have been in the Pit.Not ad hominem - acceptable in GD.Should have been in the Pit. [/QUOTE] You’re right. And, if you’ll notice, I _immediately_ recanted and apologized. Funny that nobody seems to have noticed that. However, I’m a bit confused. The OP basically accused atheists of being evil or psychopathic… and yet, calling him on that is against the rules. As I said later in the thread- if the OP had been a guest instead of a board regular, what would the immediate assumption have been? And since every one of the points **mswas** propped up has been repeatedly refuted in previous threads, well… shouldn’t **mswas** be held to a higher standard than a guest? ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/33 "2008-04-10T15:21:33Z")
[QUOTE=Lightnin’] … shouldn’t **mswas** be held to a higher standard than a guest? [/QUOTE] Ask him if he’s posting while stoned again. Knowing that about him sorta took the fun out of the discourse, for me. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/34 "2008-04-10T15:22:31Z")
[QUOTE=Revtim] If he’s purposely lying, he’s trolling. But in this case, I see no reason believe he’s not simply a truthful idiot. His ignorant-ass OP is pretty typical of what a lot people think about atheism. [/QUOTE] The questions and arguments are legit, but with the way he worded his post, I wondered if **mswas** was doing an imitation of what he thinks **Der Trihs** sounds like. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/35 "2008-04-10T15:42:26Z")
I’ll also just assume **mswas** was [posting high](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8612373&postcount=125) again. Or “playing Devil’s Advocate” again, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/36 "2008-04-10T15:46:38Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] The questions and arguments are legit, but with the way he worded his post, I wondered if **mswas** was doing an imitation of what he thinks **Der Trihs** sounds like. [/QUOTE] Then **mswas** should keep the night job - I can do a more convincing bizarro-DT with my fist and some lipstick… ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/37 "2008-04-10T15:50:20Z")
[QUOTE=Revtim] Sweet mother of fuck [/QUOTE] Should I ever assemble a musical ensemble, I shall call it thus. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/38 "2008-04-10T16:05:55Z")
“OMG he called atheists evil! Troll! Troll!! OMFG TROLL!!!111!1!!” Lighten the fuck up, people. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/39 "2008-04-10T16:21:04Z")
[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar] “OMG he called atheists evil! Troll! Troll!! OMFG TROLL!!!111!1!!” Lighten the fuck up, people. Seriously. [/QUOTE] No, it’s more like: “It looks like he’s posted an OP consisting of a patently ridiculous straw man that he’s surely not stupid enough to believe. If he’s done this just to provoke an angry response, and not to have an honest debate, then he’s trolling.” Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742/40 "2008-04-10T16:28:45Z")
[QUOTE=Baldwin] No, it’s more like: “It looks like he’s posted an OP consisting of a patently ridiculous straw man that he’s surely not stupid enough to believe. If he’s done this just to provoke an angry response, and not to have an honest debate, then he’s trolling.” Hope that helps. [/QUOTE] So quit your bitching and go destroy his argument in GD if it’s so full of holes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mswas-is-a-trolling-hunk-of-shit/444742.md?page=3)