# Mt. Rushmore or your state...with a beard of evil! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 18, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996 "2014-03-18T13:06:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/1 "2014-03-18T13:06:08Z")
Thread over [yonder](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17205879&posted=1#post17205879) asking who you would put on the Mt. Rushmore of your state. What about the ANTI-Rushmore? 4 folks from your state that for whatever reason embody all that is evil and wrong. Same rules as that thread as well, all credit to Happy Leddervedder: > [@Mt. Rushmore of your state](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-of-your-state/683636/1): > > -Being born there isn’t enough (for instance, Malcolm X was born in Nebraska, however he lived there less than a year). > > -This person has to have made an impact on your state, either by what they did there or by living there during a time they made an impact on the nation or world, or by living there long enough as to be considered “one of your own.” > > -One state doesn’t necessarily have exclusive claim on an individual (more than one state can put someone on their Mt. Rushmore, as long as this person has some substantial presence in a state). Also, it doesn’t have to be someone you necessarily dislike or who is universally disliked, there just has to be a well-known evil connotation. At least one example like this will be on my list. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/2 "2014-03-18T13:11:38Z")
Missouri: Jesse James Rush Limbaugh James Earl Ray Carrie Nation 😉 ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/3 "2014-03-18T13:12:54Z")
Washington DC: Richad Nixon Marion Barry Dick Cheney Allen Dulles ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/4 "2014-03-18T13:25:37Z")
Texas: Lee Harvey Oswald Bush 2 Charles Whitman David Koresh ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/5 "2014-03-18T13:37:27Z")
This is tougher for Nebraska. As I said in the other thread, Buffalo Bill and William Jennings Bryan were on the wrong side of history more often than I’d like, but neither was really a historical villain in any real sense. Charles Starkweather is the only name that’s obvious who would be known outside the state. [Michael Ryan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_W._Ryan)would be on my list, but I doubt many of you know who he is. Likewise [Tom Dennison](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Dennison_(political_boss)). Charles Manson went to Boys Town for a while, but I don’t think that counts. In the 1970s, Nebraska was reputed to have the worst Senate delegation of all 50 states in Carl Curtis and Roman Hruska, but I’ve known too many people who were personally helped by both men to put the “beard of evil” on either of them. This will take some thought. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/6 "2014-03-18T13:39:30Z")
Pee Wee Herman George Zimmerman Ted Bundy Jimmy Buffett ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/7 "2014-03-18T13:41:35Z")
Gosh, I could almost do this just in Gainesville. Florida: Ted Bundy Terry Jones Danny Rolling That dude in south Florida who got shot while eating that other dude’s face. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/8 "2014-03-18T13:53:10Z")
OK, I’ve had my thought. Dick Cheney Charles Starkweather Michael Ryan Tom Dennison ETA: If anyone knows of any major figures in Native American genocide with close ties to Nebraska, please let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/9 "2014-03-18T13:59:08Z")
For Connecticut: Benedict Arnold [Anthony Comstock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Comstock) George W Bush Henry Kissinger ---
**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/10 "2014-03-18T14:21:55Z")
I’ll do my English one again if I may: Andrew Wakefield Harold Shipman Piers Morgan Simon Cowell ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/11 "2014-03-18T14:26:40Z")
Already did this in the other thread, but: Maryland: John Wilkes Booth Spiro Agnew Alger Hiss Dr. Samuel Mudd ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/12 "2014-03-18T14:30:10Z")
For Virginia, I’m tempted to list four generals from a certain insurrection that was in progress 150 years ago, but they’re still all regarded as heroes in the Commonwealth, and have highways and stuff named after them. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/13 "2014-03-18T14:38:13Z")
Illinois: [HH Holmes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Holmes) John Wayne Gacy Al Capone Ronald Reagan ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/14 "2014-03-18T14:41:09Z")
Wisconsin has some “good” ones, due in part to our history of crazed mass murderers. Steering clear of any current political jabs, I give you: Ed Gein Jeffrey Dahmner Joseph McCarthy [Aldrich Ames](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldrich_Ames) ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/15 "2014-03-18T14:50:54Z")
I’ll also do my home state: Washington Ted Bundy [Westley Allan Dodd](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westley_Allan_Dodd) Gary Ridgeway (Green River Killer) [Robert Lee Yates](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lee_Yates) ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/16 "2014-03-18T17:11:24Z")
I refuse to participate in this thread as limiting to only 4 people for Texas would be like choosing 4 smelliest garbage dumps in the US. Impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/17 "2014-03-18T17:23:27Z")
Massachusetts: Whitey Bulger, Lizzie Borden, Charles Ponzi, Charles Stuart I’m sure there are better choices, but those came to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/18 "2014-03-18T17:23:38Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > I refuse to participate in this thread as limiting to only 4 people for Texas would be like choosing 4 smelliest garbage dumps in the US. Impossible. Come on. I took GWB off your hands; that should make it easier for you. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/19 "2014-03-18T19:46:21Z")
New York: A lot of people to choose from, naturally. **Carlo Gambino** , John Gotti, Bugsy Siegel, Al Sharpton **Ethel or Julius Rosenberg** William Marcy “Boss” Tweed, **Fernando Wood** David “Son of Sam” Berkowitz **Bernie Madoff** Texas: Clyde Barrow John Wesley Hardin Lee Harvey Oswald John William King (or Shawn Berry or Lawrence Brewer)\* \*The guys who dragged James Byrd to death behind a truck ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996/20 "2014-03-18T20:10:33Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Already did this in the other thread, but: > > Maryland: > > John Wilkes Booth > Spiro Agnew > Alger Hiss > Dr. Samuel Mudd Can we fit Jeffrey Levitt in there somewhere? Robert Irsay? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mt-rushmore-or-your-state-with-a-beard-of-evil/683996.md?page=2)