# MTV has actually done it...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mtv-has-actually-done-it/186413>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 5, 2003, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mtv-has-actually-done-it/186413 "2003-07-05T18:16:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Tarrsk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@Tarrsk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarrsk)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mtv-has-actually-done-it/186413/21 "2003-07-06T06:47:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Yookeroo \*  
> \*\*So they made money by creating a bunch of channels that few people watch?
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> I gotta say that if they’re making so much money, they’re doing something smart. \*\*

Yes. Because intelligence is only measured by how much money you make.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Earl\_of\_the\_CC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Earl\_of\_the\_CC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_of_the_CC)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mtv-has-actually-done-it/186413/22 "2003-07-06T07:32:35Z")

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Er, when a business does something that makes them money, they would be fools to stop doing it. Unless they had the idea that something contradictory would make more.

MTV should maybe try doing one-day-a-week is video week type thing and seeing how it works, and if it does work, they add more videos to the line-up. But, in business, yes, intelligence is measured in money made. Perhaps not person to person, but that is absolutely, positively, without a doubt, the measure of it from business to business.

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mtv-has-actually-done-it/186413/23 "2003-07-06T12:20:02Z")

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> _originally posted by Zenster_  
> If you are not photogenic, you have almost zero chance of making it in the music industry, all thanks to EmptyV.

The same MTV that gave birth to the Partridge Family? And I haven’t noticed Thom Yorke’s lack of boy-band looks hindering his musical career.

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> they were the final nail in the coffin during the transition from decent Rock and Roll through Glam Rock and now into completely engineered money making machines like In Synch, Britney and The Backstreet Boys.

I’ll take the White Stripes over the Monkees, the Red Hot Chili Peppers over the Bay City Rollers, the Foo Fighters over and Radiohead over Yes.

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> Music has not been the central issue for quite some while now.

Except for that major label record that debuted at No.1, without any singles or videos promoting it… _Kid A_. And didn’t they make the Monkees for a TV show?

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Demographics are everything and artistic quality and content be d@mned in the name of profit.

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Well, I really hate to go on about the Monkees, but they so perfectly illustrate that the music industry’s use by Big Business was not confined to the post-MTV landscape.

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mtv-has-actually-done-it/186413/24 "2003-07-06T12:22:52Z")

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> the Foo Fighters over

insert Macarthur Park here.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mtv-has-actually-done-it/186413/25 "2003-07-06T12:55:28Z")

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Surprisingly, the Monkees wound up being… pretty darn radical for their time. Quality musicians, some actual good music…

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mtv-has-actually-done-it/186413/26 "2003-07-07T01:10:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tarrsk \*  
> \*\*Yes. Because intelligence is only measured by how much money you make.
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> :rolleyes: \*\*

When the goal is to make money, I’d say it’s a pretty good measuring stick.

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**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mtv-has-actually-done-it/186413/27 "2003-07-07T01:58:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fred \*  
> \*\*Yeah, no one ever engineered bands to make money before MTV came along.
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> What? You mean there was a music industry before MTV? And it was dedicated to **making money**??? The hell you say!
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> In other news, good old days not so good. Think Sex Pistols,\*\*

You see, the BIG ONE for them\*\* wasn’t total crap. Unlike boybands of now, like Nsync and other such crap

\*Anarchy in the UK  
\*I think it is.

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**Author:** ![Delly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Delly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delly)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mtv-has-actually-done-it/186413/28 "2003-07-07T02:22:08Z")

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MTV UK & Ireland shows both a mixture of the programmes and music videos, so its not to bad and seems to be doing quite well, in my little opinion anyway, youd think MTV USA could come to the same sort of agreement…  
MTV Germany does it to, programmes and music videos i mean, had the pleasure(?) of watching that last week while I was in Spain (theres not much sence in that is there?). Maybe if your lucky MTV USA might start this to… or maybe MTV over this side will change?

Unfortunately the latter is probably more likely.

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