Multiculturalism - a no brainer

Anti Semites hate Jews because they resent their superiority. Blacks are not hated because they are inferior but because they are dangerous.

Of course, I am speaking in terms of averages.

Yup. If the jackboot fits, wear it.

Hey, where’s the “European” OP? Couldn’t the “multicultural” label refer to the modern European Union, since it’s an alternative way of dealing with those discrete European cultures that marred the 20th century with world wars & genocide? (At least those antics ended Colonialism, showing the “civilized” folk had no business running other peoples’ countries.) Or does “multicultural” only apply to non-white folks?

Perhaps he has the decency to be embarrassed by the “allies” who popped up here, so predictably.

And one is using the other against the rest of us. I have it on good authority.

Apparently “the Blacks” do have some uses…[

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Regarding the supposed cultural superiority of certain groups, I offer this:
“liquified tomato?”

As you said in another thread, members of different cultures have different values and goals, and who is to judge which values and goals are “better”?

But what about violence or female genital mutilation for example… cultures CAN be weighed on a moral/ethical scale, no? Though I suspect some aren’t talking about culture, but genetics, in this thread.

According to the Census Bureau, the percentage of people who are multi-racial has increased dramatically over the last ten years. Especially in the “deep South”, somewhat surprisingly. I wonder if these people can help bridge gaps and eliminate barriers. I myself know a lot more multi-racial people, mostly children, than I used to.

I haven’t heard a big wave of support for female genital mutilation. Last I heard, nobody was immune from violence.

All those Traditionally European cultures now working in harmony? No problem. Darker skinned people showing up in Europe (usually from former colonies)–Big Problem!

It certainly has been in some cases in Paris & the UK, unfortunately.

They were starting to work together after World War II and Hitler and fascism and all that.

Culture is subjective, and so are judgments of such cultures. ‘Objective’ criteria such as levels of violence or economic success are merely subjective bases as well.

That said, I am not a moral relativist. I do think some cultures perform better at what I consider my subjective ideal - allowing its individuals to maximize their personal utility (of which economic utility is on the low side) according to their own preferences (which are often changing and rarely transitive) as long as such utility and preferences do not inflict harm on others. Among those cultures, to each their own. Yet among those, my personal feeling is that South Asian culture kicks ass (once it let go of the formal caste system) based on the ‘objective’ criteria of how many people live within in that culture without actively trying to harm each other. It is far from perfect, but I cannot see a billion people living in the US without even more communal violence than that region sees.

And as a foodie, American cuisine is still developing, but so far it is seriously lacking in comparison to others. Of course, I tend to judge people not by the clothes on their back, or the vehicle on their driveway, but by what food they have on the table (or the floor as is the case in some cultures.) It does not mean I find them inferior, just that my personal preference leans in a different direction.

I also tend to look to see if they have a bookcase, and what is on it. (Of course, in the future that will mean more of sneaking a peek at their Kindle.) If they don’t have one, I still don’t find them inferior, but perhaps a bit more ignorant than others, though they may still be far more knowledgeable in other subject areas for which I am ignorant.

And I will stick with cuisine and literature over genetics, diplomas, or bank accounts every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Some subjective criteria are more superior to others. Just as most sauces are superior to liquified tomatoes. :wink: (Bourbon BBQ sauce for example. There is hope for American cuisine.)

The problem with black people after Katrina is that they didn’t think big enough. The Japanese have more initiative.

+1

I’d also add that its not simply the association with racism that makes anti-multiculturalism bad. In a progressively flattening world, having exposure to and familiarity with other cultures is probably going to be useful.

I feel sorry for this girl. Sure, she’s racist but she has basically sabotaged her career before it even got started. It will take her years to recover from this and this video will follow her around the rest of her life.

I know the resolution is bad but being blonde is not enough to make you a pron star.

One of the downsides of living in a world where any idiot has an audience of millions for whatever moronic thought burbles up out of his/her barely congealed grey matter. Or upsides, if (like me) you enjoy seeing willful stupidity punished.

I don’t have children, but if I did I would expend considerable parenting effort drilling into their head the potentially catastrophic implications of anything they do or say online. Being that kids in general have trouble with the concept of “a long time,” let alone “forever,” I assume it would require constant drilling— but the danger of (metaphorically) shooting yourself in the face with YouTube or Facebook is far greater and more likely than, say, the specter of the dreaded stranger with candy in the beat-up van.

Which doesn’t really have much to do with multiculturalism, now that I think about it.

I am trying to identify the behaviour that is offensive to you. AFAICT, the only thing that really fits the bill is language.

Once again, other than language issues, what are you talking about specifically?

Its not like people are asking to be exempt from biagmy laws or asking to be able to stone their adulterous women.

Which alws and rules are yout alking about?

What language is that? What community still speak some language other than English after a couple of generations? Or are you talking about a few exceptions here and there?

I don’t get the connection between creationists and the Bell Curve.

Creationists believe something despite all scientific evidence to the contrary. The Bell Curve points out a correlation between intelligence and socioeconomic status. It goes on to correlate intelligence to race and invites us to conclude that the reason for differences in socioeconomic status in America is largely due to differences in intelligence.

I don’t buy all of it but its hardly mystical thinking.

I never understood the whole “race is simply a social construct” I understood race to mean a population that tended to breed within itself. If that is a social construct (i.e. there is no biological imperitive that prevents interaacial breeding), how does that make race “simply” a social construct? It seems like more than that.

To me education is a lot like health care. There is no limit to how many resources we can devote to it. Ideally each student would have a stable of tutors teaching them each subject in exactly the manner that would maximize their learning but it will probably cost society a lot more than it is worth to pay for that kind of education. We make tradeoffs and we have to ask ourselves if it is really worth all the extra expense of running multiple education systems in multiple languages in order to assimilate immigrant children as undispruptively as possible or if that money could be better spent in some other area of education.

I think a reasonable society could decide that it is imply not worth the cost of easing the transition for immigrant children quite so much and improving our science labs instead. Its all a matter of priorities, isn’t it?