# Multiple gunshots in Alexandria Virginia at the Congressional Baseball Practice.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 14, 2017, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930 "2017-06-14T12:05:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/141 "2017-06-14T19:36:49Z")

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Kind of James Bond of the GOP representatives and their team- they are tough enough to take a bullet, regroup and then take out the insane Bernie Bro villain. Way to go, good-guys-with-guns-who-stop-bad-guys-with-guns.

But please, everybody, stop with the random violence. Your personal crisis, your ideas about your identity or the identities of other people- none of this is any excuse. Terrorism and murder just don’t help anybody.

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/142 "2017-06-14T19:47:20Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> I just want to say as a vocal anit-Trumpian that I absolutely condemn this action. There is NO excuse for violence. (And we need better gun control).

Seconded! And our political leaders – of any stripe – should not use violent rhetoric when calling for political change. (To their credit, few do; but some do.)

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/143 "2017-06-14T20:35:34Z")

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BTW, Fox News has a video that a bystander recorded on a cell phone. It’s not particularly graphic, but you can hear ~60 gun shots and see a person (presumably Scalise) laying in the grass, so [viewer discretion advised](http://video.foxnews.com/v/5471292591001/?#sp=show-clips).

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**Author:** ![yornmine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e480ec/32.png) [@yornmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yornmine)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/144 "2017-06-14T20:58:06Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Hannity: “Liberal fake news stirs up hatred.”
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> As a fellow white guy, I feel compelled to state that this guy is not representative of my race or gender and his actions should not be used as an excuse to bash my community… oh, wait. We don’t have to do this. Never mind.

True, the hysterical left insists that only conservatives do.

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**Author:** ![yornmine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e480ec/32.png) [@yornmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yornmine)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/145 "2017-06-14T20:59:15Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Doubtful. Maybe if Trump himself was attacked there might be some rallying of sympathy but I can’t see where shooting a House Rep translates into Trump being immune from impeachment.
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> I don’t think Trump will ever be impeached, mind you, but that’s for completely non-related reasons.

True, despite what braindead liberals (oxymoron, I know) “think,” Hilary won’t suddenly become President if Trump were fired.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/146 "2017-06-14T21:03:47Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> BTW, Fox News has a video that a bystander recorded on a cell phone. It’s not particularly graphic, but you can hear ~60 gun shots and see a person (presumably Scalise) laying in the grass, so [viewer discretion advised](http://video.foxnews.com/v/5471292591001/?#sp=show-clips).

I don’t think the person recording realized just how close some of the fire was coming to him. :eek: You can hear several distinct whistles of bullets passing nearby.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/147 "2017-06-14T21:04:09Z")

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> [@Tranquilis](#):
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> As for the alleged shooter being a Bernie supporter, based upon my personal interactions with Bernie supporters, I’m not particularly surprised; there’s a LOT of angst and rage built up in that community. Though to be honest, I’d have been unsurprised if it had been aimed at Democrats, instead. The angst and fury I’ve seen was pretty much equally divided between TRump and Hillary.

I was also not too surprised that the shooter was a Bernie supporter but I think you are looking at this the wrong way around. Rather than thinking what is it about Bernie supporters that would make one take out a gun and start shooting Congressmen, (the answer being nothing at all given that 99.9999% or Bernie supporters don’t do this.) The question should be which candidate is a homicidal anti-Republican radical likely to vote for. The answer is probably the one with the most radical anti-republican stance.

Blaming Bernie for this makes as much sense as blaming trench coat manufactures for Columbine.

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/148 "2017-06-14T21:04:47Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Kind of James Bond of the GOP representatives and their team- they are tough enough to take a bullet, regroup and then take out the insane Bernie Bro villain. Way to go, good-guys-with-guns-who-stop-bad-guys-with-guns.
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> But please, everybody, stop with the random violence. Your personal crisis, your ideas about your identity or the identities of other people- none of this is any excuse. Terrorism and murder just don’t help anybody.

Please share where you’re seeing that GOP reps helped take out the shooter. Everything I’ve read indicates that Capital and local police took him out. I’m not seeing anything “James Bond” about hiding in the dugout, which is of course the normal “flight” response in this type of situation.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/149 "2017-06-14T21:07:49Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> The question should be which candidate is a homicidal anti-Republican radical likely to vote for.

An interesting question.

> [@](#):
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> Blaming Bernie for this makes as much sense as blaming trench coat manufactures for Columbine.

Not even _remotely_ blaming Bernie, whom seems like a really decent guy on a personal level, and one who generally tries to - and mostly succeeds - take the high road.

On the other hand, I know a number of Bernie supporters, and they do _not_ all take the measured, statesman-like approach. There’s some _RAW_ fury out there, and maybe, yeah, your interesting question is highly appropriate.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/150 "2017-06-14T21:07:52Z")

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Sorry, didn’t see the mod note…just wanted to play with numbers.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/151 "2017-06-14T21:08:10Z")

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Warning issued for being a jerk.

> [@yornmine](#):
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> True, despite what braindead liberals (oxymoron, I know) “think,” Hilary won’t suddenly become President if Trump were fired.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/152 "2017-06-14T21:29:21Z")

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“braindead liberals (oxymoron, I know)” is a compliment, no?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/153 "2017-06-14T21:30:21Z")

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> [@Tranquilis](#):
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> I don’t think the person recording realized just how close some of the fire was coming to him. :eek: You can hear several distinct whistles of bullets passing nearby.

I thought the same thing. From time to time, I see videos where, to me, everything about the situation says “RUN!!!”, and yet, the videographer is sticking around to record. Maybe I’ve just got a lower risk tolerance than other people, or care less about my social media standing, or maybe they don’t realize just how much danger they were in. I don’t know what it is.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/154 "2017-06-14T21:33:45Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> BTW, Fox News has a video that a bystander recorded on a cell phone. It’s not particularly graphic, but you can hear ~60 gun shots and see a person (presumably Scalise) laying in the grass, so [viewer discretion advised](http://video.foxnews.com/v/5471292591001/?#sp=show-clips).

One thing for sure - those do not sound anything like “pop pop pop”.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/155 "2017-06-14T21:36:41Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> One thing for sure - those do not sound anything like “pop pop pop”.

My guess would be 7.62x39, which also seems like the right caliber selection for someone of his political persuasion.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/156 "2017-06-14T21:38:05Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> One thing for sure - those do not sound anything like “pop pop pop”.

Proximity (or lack thereof) and intervening objects can seriously change the nature of firearms reports. Some of those were very definately rifle shots, which have a different sound to them than your typical pistol shot.

> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> My guess would be 7.62x39, which also seems like the right caliber selection for someone of his political persuasion.

Or .223 - or any of the intermidiate calibers.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/157 "2017-06-14T21:48:28Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> My guess would be 7.62x39, which also seems like the right caliber selection for someone of his political persuasion.

Not sure what that means, but one of the news stories says a SKS rifle 7.62 and a 9mm pistol were recovered.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/158 "2017-06-14T21:51:04Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> Not sure what that means, but one of the news stories says a SKS rifle 7.62 and a 9mm pistol were recovered.

The SKS is an AK-47 pattern rifle. Uses the 7.62x39 cartridge.  
HK is implying because it’s the left, they use a Commie rifle.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/159 "2017-06-14T21:54:47Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> Not sure what that means, but one of the news stories says a SKS rifle 7.62 and a 9mm pistol were recovered.

Pretty sure he means it’s a commie caliber.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-gunshots-in-alexandria-virginia-at-the-congressional-baseball-practice/788930/160 "2017-06-14T21:56:56Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> The SKS is an AK-47 pattern rifle. Uses the 7.62x39 cartridge.  
> HK is implying because it’s the left, they use a Commie rifle.

Meant **HD.**

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