# Multiple Shootings At Fort Hood **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 5, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472 "2009-11-05T21:09:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/41 "2009-11-05T23:33:35Z")
DELETED; saw **Marley23** ’s post after I posted. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/42 "2009-11-05T23:36:47Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > It’s now being reported that Hasan was going to be deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison said he was upset about his impending deployment, which argues against the terrorist angle somewhat. He previously worked at Walter Reed [This New York Times story casts a little doubt on the idea that there were multiple shooters.](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/us/06forthood.html?_r=1&hp) Hasan used two guns and shot mostly other soldiers at a facility where they do paperwork prior to deploying. Sounds like the guy was a commissioned psychiatrist. Strange. It’s also strange that a guy with a couple of handguns was able to do this much damage on a military base. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/43 "2009-11-05T23:37:54Z")
Fox experts as of 15 min ago are harping on the Arab name thing. By now, untold millions of Sheeple now think we are under attack. :mad: What ever happened to ‘don’t make the news, report it’? Damn ass-hydrant pseudo-media hacks… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/44 "2009-11-05T23:38:52Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Sounds like the guy was a commissioned psychiatrist. Strange. Very. I am thinking he assumed he’d taken a job where he would never have to go overseas. > [@](#): > > It’s also strange that a guy with a couple of handguns was able to do this much damage on a military base. Definitely. Was he shooting at unarmed people? ---
**Author:** ![Terraplane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Terraplane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terraplane)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/45 "2009-11-05T23:47:23Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Very. I am thinking he assumed he’d taken a job where he would never have to go overseas. > Definitely. Was he shooting at unarmed people? Yes, most soldiers are unarmed while on base unless they’re actively training. The only people who regularly carry guns are the MP’s. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/46 "2009-11-05T23:48:21Z")
The shooter’s name is now being reported as Nidal Malik Hasan, not Malik Nadal Hasan. (I didn’t think he looked like a tennis player.) It’s starting to sound like he was the only shooter and perhaps two other soldiers assisted him in some undefined way. But it’s not like they’ve had time to reconstruct the scene or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/47 "2009-11-05T23:49:46Z")
Nevermind… ---
**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/48 "2009-11-06T00:07:07Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Fox experts as of 15 min ago are harping on the Arab name thing. By now, untold millions of Sheeple now think we are under attack. :mad: I predict that we’ll soon hear from the Right is that this is Obama’s fault somehow. ETA: Anticipating the charge of “Well, you liberals blamed GWB for everything,” let me say that, as a recovering Right Winger (going on 3 years now), I never thought that the criticism of GWB was beyond the pale. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/49 "2009-11-06T00:09:14Z")
This topic will not end well. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/50 "2009-11-06T00:16:56Z")
2 other suspects have been released. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/51 "2009-11-06T00:18:39Z")
Sounds like the terrorism angle is circling the drain. Just a lone nutcase, most likely. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/52 "2009-11-06T00:24:43Z")
msnbc is reporting that major hasan was born in virginia, went to virginia tech, and is possibly of jordanian descent. unfortunatly one of the wounded has passed, there are now 13 dead. ---
**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/53 "2009-11-06T00:37:24Z")
Dear God. I’ve said my prayers, now all I can do is hope for peace and closure for the families of the victims, living and dead, and justice for the killer(s). ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/54 "2009-11-06T00:48:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Sounds like the terrorism angle is circling the drain. Just a lone nutcase, most likely. Nice job on your part of pointing out that any Muslim angle could be spurious and suggesting that we wait for developments before starting the terrorist screed. Well done. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/55 "2009-11-06T00:48:57Z")
Obviously he must have been under some duress, and for all we know, he might have had family being threatened, or been getting victimised off his non-muslim colleagues and snapped. It’s way too early to get out the pitchforks and torches. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/56 "2009-11-06T00:59:36Z")
[He evidently wasn’t a Muslim.](http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/reports-of-mass-shooting-at-fort-hood/?hp) According to his personel record, he was an NRP. Someone claiming to be his cousin was on Shepherd Smith a little while ago saying that he’d had a hard time dealing with a lot of the stories he was hearing from returning soldiers. He specialized in PTSD issues. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/57 "2009-11-06T01:03:12Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Obviously he must have been under some duress, and for all we know, he might have had family being threatened, or been getting victimised off his non-muslim colleagues and snapped. It’s way too early to get out the pitchforks and torches. Shep Smith was saying that he’d been harrassed a lot, but I wasn’t clear on the extent or the context. The military has ben overrun with a lot of aggressive evangelicals lately, so I could see that happening. I’m also not clear on whether he even was a Muslim, since his record listed him as NRP. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/58 "2009-11-06T01:08:44Z")
His brother said in an interview that he had been harassed for his Middle Eastern heritage. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/59 "2009-11-06T01:16:51Z")
> [@fuzzypickles](#): > > It’s terrorism, plain and simple. Doesn’t matter which euphemism the media uses, or whether the nutjobs use a handgun or a car bomb – it’s terrorism. > Hardly irrelevant, IMHO. If it can be established that the shooter(s) motive was religious, that would definitely raise the question of whether or not it’s appropriate to enlist Muslims into the armed forces during what’s basically a Holy War against Islam. As a former recruiter, and current active duty soldier now, you cannot deny enlistment to an applicant due to their religious background. Remember also, McVey wasn’t a muslim and he managed to blow up a building,…with children in it. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472/60 "2009-11-06T01:19:06Z")
I’m hearing he was transferred from Walter Reed to Fort Hood, and that he received a “poor performance” evaluation at Walter Reed. Why would the Army send someone with a “poor performance” evaluation into a war zone? Is that common? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/multiple-shootings-at-fort-hood/516472.md?page=4)