# Munchkin Mini Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 13, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633 "2009-02-13T02:05:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/361 "2009-02-20T19:34:09Z")
> [@tdpatriots12](#): > > I’m _this_ close to switching my action from _Accept Item_ to _Displacement_. > > **FOS storyteller** > > Please confirm what you are going to do with your Item. I am\*\* not \*\*going to have a conversation next Turn about there being confusion over this. If you think threatening me is going to get you an answer faster, you obviously haven’t played enough games with me. _I have not decided what I will be doing._ We are, in case you haven’t noticed, in the midst of a rather significant discussion, and the outcome of that discussion will inform on my action. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/362 "2009-02-20T19:34:41Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Uh, I don’t mean to be such a bitch, but Hawkeyeop? Your unvote and Vote now has Blaster Master up by one, which I’m totally cool with, but I think we are shooting for Tie. If we are I’m not part of that we. We can always deal with Zuma later if he really isn’t playing. Maybe we can confirm him as townie by one of our detectives. Force the scum to deal with him. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/363 "2009-02-20T19:35:09Z")
**vote zuma** ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/364 "2009-02-20T19:35:57Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > **vote zuma** What exactly is the advance of voting lynching Zuma, if we are going to lynch Blaster anyway? ---
**Author:** ![tdpatriots12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@tdpatriots12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdpatriots12)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/365 "2009-02-20T19:36:11Z")
It’s not a threat, it’s just a statement. If tomorrow someone says, “Well **tdpats** caused confusion” I’m just going to ignore them, and the reason is that I’ve been the one pushing for a decision. You _are_ in the midst of a conversation that involves participation. I consider forcing me to dangle in the wind while I might, you know, have RL stuff to do, to be extremely irritating. Whatever decisions you have to make, you are running out of time to make them. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/366 "2009-02-20T19:36:48Z")
zuma is on my investigate list, but a Ranger’s power lowers the probability of my investigating successfully. I would if I could, but I can’t. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/367 "2009-02-20T19:37:04Z")
There. Now. **Nobody vote**. Let’s discuss this like rational people, and when we reach some kind of collective decision, I commit to unvoting to conform with the collective will. The alternative is comical and stupid flipping of votes for the next 20 minutes. We now have a tie; let’s go from here. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/368 "2009-02-20T19:40:38Z")
My preference is to lynch both. I stated as such quite a while ago (yesterday?). I was open to lynching Blaster Master with Squid stabbing zuma, but my preference is the Tie. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/369 "2009-02-20T19:41:18Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > There. Now. **Nobody vote**. Let’s discuss this like rational people, and when we reach some kind of collective decision, I commit to unvoting to conform with the collective will. > > The alternative is comical and stupid flipping of votes for the next 20 minutes. We now have a tie; let’s go from here. But that is half the fun. Really though I don’t see how leaving Zuma alive can hurt us. We can lynch him any future day, and use him to test our detectives. We will get additional information on people, and perhaps force the scum to use a kill rather than us. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/370 "2009-02-20T19:41:53Z")
> [@tdpatriots12](#): > > It’s not a threat, it’s just a statement. If tomorrow someone says, “Well **tdpats** caused confusion” I’m just going to ignore them, and the reason is that I’ve been the one pushing for a decision. > > You _are_ in the midst of a conversation that involves participation. I consider forcing me to dangle in the wind while I might, you know, have RL stuff to do, to be extremely irritating. Whatever decisions you have to make, you are running out of time to make them. I’m not forcing you to do anything, dude. I intend to pass you the Helm unless something happens to change that in the next twenty minutes. I will announce any intention to do anything other than pass the Helm publicly. OK? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/371 "2009-02-20T19:42:55Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > But that is half the fun. > > Really though I don’t see how leaving Zuma alive can hurt us. We can lynch him any future day, and use him to test our detectives. We will get additional information on people, and perhaps force the scum to use a kill rather than us. What is your feeling about **sach’s** idea (we fry Blam but leave Boozahol to use up his kill on zuma)? ---
**Author:** ![tdpatriots12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@tdpatriots12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdpatriots12)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/372 "2009-02-20T19:43:02Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > I’m not forcing you to do anything, dude. I intend to pass you the Helm unless something happens to change that in the next twenty minutes. I will announce any intention to do anything other than pass the Helm publicly. OK? And I’m _Accepting Item_. But I have stuff to do so I have to leave, well now-ish. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/373 "2009-02-20T19:43:08Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > B We can lynch him any future day, and use him to test our detectives. If you plan on lynching zuma on a future day, I have No Intention of investigating him. 1. I have a higher likelihood of failure 2. You’re going to kill him anyway ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/374 "2009-02-20T19:44:40Z")
Oh, and it’s a stupid test anyway. Evil already knows zuma’s alignment. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/375 "2009-02-20T19:44:42Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > If you plan on lynching zuma on a future day, I have No Intention of investigating him. > > 1. I have a higher likelihood of failure > 2. You’re going to kill him anyway We lynch him on a future day if he comes up Evil. If he comes up good and you come up good than we don’t have to do anything. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/376 "2009-02-20T19:45:54Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > But that is half the fun. > > Really though I don’t see how leaving Zuma alive can hurt us. We can lynch him any future day, and use him to test our detectives. We will get additional information on people, and perhaps force the scum to use a kill rather than us. What item is he carrying? He won’t tell us. We won’t know if someone steals it, so it could wind up in the hands of an evil character, and we wouldn’t know. By KOing him now we get the item into the hoard, or if no item appears know that someone lifted it _today_. And it’s not as if we’re giving up on killing BlaM by forcing a tie. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/377 "2009-02-20T19:45:55Z")
**sach** and **hawk** , your positions are clear. Is there anyone else present who would like to weigh in on whether we should lynch Blam, zuma, both, or neither? ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/378 "2009-02-20T19:46:07Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > What is your feeling about **sach’s** idea (we fry Blam but leave Boozahol to use up his kill on zuma)? It is still townies using a kill that might not be necessary. If Zuma is town, I don’t want to the scum’s work for them. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/379 "2009-02-20T19:46:11Z")
Holy cow, I refresh and there is two new pages of Blam shitstorm! I wish I didn’t have meetings on Fridays. I’m happy with my votes where they are right now, and I will leave them both to avoid any last minute confusion. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/380 "2009-02-20T19:48:32Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > It is still townies using a kill that might not be necessary. If Zuma is town, I don’t want to the scum’s work for them. **Boozahol** is a Townie? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633.md?page=20)